[Signing] Gaudreau re-signs (6 yrs, $6.75 mil AAV) - Page 22 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

burnitdown · 10-10-2016, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

In that Johnson article, I don't know why it drives me bananas, but it just does. There is a huge difference between being 51% of the jerseys sold, and being responsible for 51% of jerseys sold.

I wouldn't be too concerned over an article where he writes that "moms want to mother" Johnny. All of it seems over-the-top...

Dion · 10-10-2016, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

I don't sense any love for the flames management in his announcement, oh well, most likely he'll outlast Treliving and Burke anyway.

Strange Brew · 10-10-2016, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by djsFlames

I think it opens next year after making another top 6 acquisition and finding a reliable #4 D next offseason and shedding a few bad contracts.

This year is (fingers crossed, knock on wood) the return to playoff team status.

They will need to sign a goalie too. At least one of those pieces will need to come from within the organization IMO for it all to work.

1qqaaz · 10-10-2016, 07:41 PM

I hate the term. 1 to 4, or 7 to 8 would have been better.

But the cap hit is fine for now.

Someone just needs to get Johnny to marry a Calgary girl.

djsFlames · 10-10-2016, 07:42 PM

I thought that too. A shout out to his teammates, the fans, his agent and his family.

Emphasis on just wanting to play and (probably) not to let the team down.

But no mentioning of the guys upstairs who are signing him to get paid all this money. Probably a little sourness after they pressed the $6.75 M issue right until the bitter end, making him force the agent's hand.

iggy_oi · 10-10-2016, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

I don't sense any love for the flames management in his announcement, oh well, most likely he'll outlast Treliving and Burke anyway.

Resign?

JiriHrdina · 10-10-2016, 07:42 PM

Yeah they are going to have to start filling more of the complimentary pieces internally. They can't afford to hand out more deals like Brouwer and Frolik. I'm OK with those deals but to make this work some of the other prospects have to start to come through.

Vinny01 · 10-10-2016, 07:43 PM

So Johnny's contract won't be expired but he will be eligible for an extension before the next CBA expires? Also a lockout could burn his final year of his deal like Iggy.

Johnny may want to sign another contract if owners try and inevitably squeeze the players further

djsFlames · 10-10-2016, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Yeah they are going to have to start filling more of the complimentary pieces internally. They can't afford to hand out more deals like Brouwer and Frolik. I'm OK with those deals but to make this work some of the other prospects have to start to come through.

I think the #4 d-man will come from the system (looking at Kulak, Kylington or Andersson a couple seasons from now, and hopefully one breaking in full time next season) but I think they'll have to make one more Brouwer/Frolik type deal to round out the top 6. It's good to have a mix of veteran and young players, and the scale still tips toward the younger side, so a reliable vet that can provide top 6 production should imo be on the menu for next offseason. Also keeping in mind that a depth guy or two may be lost to the expansion draft (like a Frolik).

keratosis · 10-10-2016, 07:49 PM

It's been a good day.

Gaudreauvertime · 10-10-2016, 07:51 PM

Great deal by Treliving, definitely fair value in my mind. Would have loved 8 years at the ask that was rumored, but 6 years is still ba long time.

Now let's get us a scoring title, a presidents trophy, and maybe a silver cup.

Erick Estrada · 10-10-2016, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Yeah they are going to have to start filling more of the complimentary pieces internally. They can't afford to hand out more deals like Brouwer and Frolik. I'm OK with those deals but to make this work some of the other prospects have to start to come through.

Outside of signing a goaltender I don't see the Flames as big players in free agency for a while. No room left for overpaying depth talent.

Fire · 10-10-2016, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I hate the term. 1 to 4, or 7 to 8 would have been better.

But the cap hit is fine for now.

Someone just needs to get Johnny to marry a Calgary girl.

A term of 1 to 4 would just mean a 8+ AAV on his next contract. I don't see how that is better than a 6 year deal for $6.75 AAV. Plus signing a 1-4 year deal would open him up for offer sheets and arbitration.

Resolute 14 · 10-10-2016, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Only one year of UFA is dissapointing but just need to make sure he is traded before then. Not something we have to worry about for a long time

If this was your first thought, Jiri, then this encapsulates everything that is wrong with modern fandom. And I know you weren't the only one to think this.

Honestly, the first thought should have been relief and excitement that we have one of the game's best young players in the line-up on Wednesday.

Vinny01 · 10-10-2016, 07:55 PM

This deal should allow the Flames to keep Bennett and Tkachuk long term as well likely under $7M as well.

JiriHrdina · 10-10-2016, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

If this was your first thought, Jiri, then this encapsulates everything that is wrong with modern fandom. And I know you weren't the only one to think this.

Honestly, the first thought should have been relief and excitement that we have one of the game's best young players in the line-up on Wednesday.

I'm happy believe me.
I just think the organization has to start being smarter about asset management in the long run.
This team has been shallow asset wise for decades, and one of the reasons is they continually mis-time when to move on from players. When it is all said and done it may well end up being that they got nothing out of the last core of this team: Iginla, Kipper, Bouwmeester, Regehr. The only hope of ANY return from those 4 guys right now is Klimchuk and Poirier.
That's grim.

I wanted at least 7. Happy with 6. Wanted 7.
I don't see what's wrong with that.

keratosis · 10-10-2016, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

This deal should allow the Flames to keep Bennett and Tkachuk long term as well likely under $7M as well.

Let's cross that bridge when we come to it. No telling what the market will be like then.

FlatLandFlamesFan · 10-10-2016, 07:57 PM

Was starting to a little like this

Oh nevermind still do ! Fair deal for both sides ,and leaves the organization with some flexibility with $ for other player

All hail Johnny Hockey !! All hail Tre ! Bring on the season

Timbo · 10-10-2016, 07:59 PM

Pre signing CP argues, At signing CP rejoices, post signing CP argues.
Sigh...lol

Beatle17 · 10-10-2016, 07:59 PM

Really happy that they got this done today.

Just thought I would post this from the doom and gloom thread:

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Originally Posted by Beatle17

Maybe Treliving stayed at $6.5M and Gross/Johnny dropped to $7.5M but the Flames are staying at their number? (Just showing the opposite side because none of us actually know what the numbers are and whether anyone has moved).

To which Enoch Root replied:

Yeah, no doubt Treliving flew to New Jersey and stayed there for 3 days (and counting) in order to tell them that he hasn't moved at all from his prior position.

Sounds totally plausible.