[Rumour] McKenzie: Gaudreau & Flames are closing gap, but it's still a considerable gap.

[greentree]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Bet you can't tell me how it's relevant to negotiations.

Go on, bet you can't.

I didn't say his pathetic attempt at humour was relevant to (Gaudreau) negotiations. I said Burke is an embarassment and that this unfortunate "hookers" remark he made to 21st century law students is indicative of his poor judgement. I have little confidence in Burke. Which is relevant to the discussion to the last few posts in which he was mentioned.
It would not surprise me if he shot off his mouth to some stranger on an airplane, about anything.
Now, you claimed you've heard worse remarks in public from Flames brass, worse than Burke's "hookers" joke. I challenged you to provide an example. Should I assume your lazy deflection means you aren't able?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I'm with ya man

[troutman]

Originally Posted by greentree

Burke is an embarassment. Making jokes about "hookers" in front of a UofC law class last year should have sealed it for ya helloooo.

I had Burke at UBC Law in the 1990s.

My impression was that we was fiercly loyal and respectful of his players.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by greentree

Now, you claimed you've heard worse remarks in public from Flames brass, worse than Burke's "hookers" joke. I challenged you to provide an example. Should I assume your lazy deflection means you aren't able?

I actually wasn't the one who said that.

Should I assume something based on your lazy reading? I'd be tempted to assume you're probably prone to snap judgements and name calling instead of a fair and measured response.

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I have no idea where that number is coming from. CapFriendly has the Flames with $7,989,933 in space but do not include Kulak's $656,667.

So assuming Hamilton, Vey and Kulak are on the team the Flames would currently have $7,333,266 in space.

Current Flames roster cap hit gives them $6.633m in space. Cap Friendly doesn't include Vey or Kulak. General Fanager doesn't include Kulak or $630k for cap overage from last season.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Feminazi I think

[SmoggyFlamesFan]

I'm not quite sure how this works; in that case Smid would have to be put on LTIR for Gaudreau to sign his 7M+ contract, correct?

[greentree]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I actually wasn't the one who said that.

Should I assume something based on your lazy reading? I'd be tempted to assume you're probably prone to snap judgements and name calling instead of a fair and measured response.

You're right, it was another guy who made that claim. You piped up for him, hence my mistake. No name calling, btw. Except Burke. But he dishes a lot, so he can expect some brickbats, surely.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Freeway

Current Flames roster cap hit gives them $6.633m in space. Cap Friendly doesn't include Vey or Kulak. General Fanager doesn't include Kulak or $630k for cap overage from last season.

Oops, I missed Vey not being there

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by SmoggyFlamesFan

I'm not quite sure how this works; in that case Smid would have to be put on LTIR for Gaudreau to sign his 7M+ contract, correct?

They can send eligible contracts to the AHL on the 11th and recall them on the 12th. Vey, Bennett and Kulak could be paper transactions to the AHL.

[doctajones428]

Between this thread and the other major Gaudreau contract threads we're nearing 6000 posts of this... I don't know what to call it anymore

[Coach]

[getbak]

Originally Posted by SmoggyFlamesFan

I'm not quite sure how this works; in that case Smid would have to be put on LTIR for Gaudreau to sign his 7M+ contract, correct?

With $6.63M in cap space, they could send Vey down to free up an additional $700,000. That would give them $7.33M in space. If they signed Gaudreau to a $7.3M deal, they'd be within $33,000 or so of the cap.

If I understand the math correctly (and I'm not sure I do), they could then put Smid on LTIR and it would allow them to exceed the cap by the value of Smid's contract less the amount they're under the cap on the day he's put on LTIR.

So, if they're under the cap by $33,000, and Smid's cap hit is $3.5M, they would be able to exceed the cap by about $3.467M.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by getbak

With $6.63M in cap space, they could send Vey down to free up an additional $700,000. That would give them $7.33M in space. If they signed Gaudreau to a $7.3M deal, they'd be within $33,000 or so of the cap.

If I understand the math correctly (and I'm not sure I do), they could then put Smid on LTIR and it would allow them to exceed the cap by the value of Smid's contract less the amount they're under the cap on the day he's put on LTIR.

So, if they're under the cap by $33,000, and Smid's cap hit is $3.5M, they would be able to exceed the cap by about $3.467M.

My understanding is that if Smid is placed on LTIR after the initial rosters they can exceed the cap by up to his 3.5 million but if placed on LTIR before that they get locked in to a set amount they can exceed by because it would be accepted that he has been replaced. I could be wrong though, the NHL did not make this easy to understand

[Weitz]

I sort of hope CP makes money on some ads per page view or post in this thread.

[Freeway]

LTIR is like a payday loan: you really don't want to rely on it to balance your books.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher

Oh good god. Burke is going to screw everything up.

Are you still pretending to be a Flames fan?

[Chonger]

Originally Posted by Stanley

Take it for what it's worth, but my co-worker's wife flew out of Minneapolis back to Calgary on business, Treliving and Burke were on the flight. When asked about Gaudreau, Burke said "the kid wants $50M over 7yrs".

Now, I don't see him just spitting that out to any random fan, it could be way off who knows, but if that was true, jesus sign him already!

opening calculator: 50÷7= 7.1428571429 and I agree, get it done

[BeltlineFan]

Did all the crazies come out for this one particular thread?