[Rumour] McKenzie: Gaudreau & Flames are closing gap, but it's still a considerable gap.

[Par]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Can we please stop talking about Gaudreau asking for a trade? There are literally 0 sources indicating it is anywhere near that point. In fact, all sources say he wants to stay in Calgary long term... I don't know why it's even brought up at this point.

We have to be ready for anything, maybe Gaudreau has changed his mind after the meetings with Brad Trevling.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Par

We have to be ready for anything, maybe Gaudreau has changed his mind after the meetings with Brad Trevling.

Or maybe he hasn't. Or maybe he's decided to sign for 8 years at 5 mil per. Or maybe he's developed a love for steeplechase and will retire from the NHL to pursue Olympic glory. Anything is possible.

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by Par

We have to be ready for anything, maybe Gaudreau has changed his mind after the meetings with Brad Trevling.

Maybe your just making things up.

[Flacker]

Originally Posted by saillias

delete your account

Hitting a little too close to home, junior?

[Hockeyguy15]

I have a feeling that Johnny is pulling an Andy Kaufman and he is actually playing the part of himself and this "Lewis Gross" and that is why negotiations are taking so long.

[Par]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Maybe your just making things up.

Most everyone on this thread is making things up, what's your point?

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by Par

Most everyone on this thread is making things up, what's your point?

At least most of its reasonable. Unlike "Gaudreau asking for a trade".

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Par

Most everyone on this thread is making things up, what's your point?

Holy crap take it to PM please.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Par

We have to be ready for anything, maybe Gaudreau has changed his mind after the meetings with Brad Trevling.

I would have to think that insisting on a trade is a road that Gaudreau wants to avoid at practically any cost. Once he triggers this course of action, there is no going back, and he essentially relinquishes total control over his next playing destination to the Flames. Not only does the player receive no assurance of landing in a destination of his choice, in Gaudreau's case there remains the huge uncertainty that he will even earn a higher contract with a new team.

It is a huge risk for Gaudreau to request a trade, and I am quite sure we are a VERY long way from that point just yet.

The reason Trouba asked for a trade is because Winnipeg is terrible, and no one wants to play there.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Flacker

Your attitude is a fine example of entitlement displayed by the youth of today. You use words like "worth", but seem to have no idea what that actually means.

[Young_Guns]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I would have to think that insisting on a trade is a road that Gaudreau wants to avoid at practically any cost. Once he triggers this course of action, there is no going back, and he essentially relinquishes total control over his next playing destination to the Flames. Not only does the player receive no assurance of landing in a destination of his choice, in Gaudreau's case there remains the huge uncertainty that he will even earn a higher contract with a new team.

It is a huge risk for Gaudreau to request a trade, and I am quite sure we are a VERY long way from that point just yet.

The reason Trouba asked for a trade is because Winnipeg is terrible, and no one wants to play there.

Realistically, Calgary and Edmonton aren't much better.

[sun]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Why is the expectation that our best player take a discount? Especially when his best buddy and the team captain didn't? I guess those guys are just greedy, too?

Its laughable that we'll spend big money on guys like Stajan, Wideman, Brouwer, Engelland etc but when time comes to pay our franchise player we all of the sudden go into austerity mode? We had no problem paying Monahan more than all his comps, or signing Gio until he's 40. But we can't pay the guy who runs our entire offense for his prime years? Risk ruining the relationship and this season too save an extra ~1M in cap space we might need in the future?

Its hilarious that some people defend that line of thinking while simultaneously blaming Gaudreau for wanting to be paid what he's worth.

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

It would be great to have 9-10 assets worthy of a $8M paycheck, is that seriously a question?

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Par

We have to be ready for anything, maybe Gaudreau has changed his mind after the meetings with Brad Trevling.

Maybe Johnny Gaudreau is dead, and they are now formulating a plan to reanimate his body and THAT is what is stalling these negotiations... it makes so much sense I just blew my own mind. We've got to be ready.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by pac_4_ever

Realistically, Calgary and Edmonton aren't much better.

Impossible argument to win, as city preferences are 100% personal opinion. But very few would share your opinion on that one.

[Par]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

At least most of its reasonable. Unlike "Gaudreau asking for a trade".

There is nothing unreasonable about Gaudreau asking for a trade, at this point there is nothing unreasonable.

[Party Elephant]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Think it's too dismissive to just label him a troll. Maybe in the loosest sense he is, but the guy truly believes Johnny Gaudreau is the special player of special players. It's hard to break that much respect, it's hard to break that much...love.

Sometimes there's just so much respect that it boils over

[Young_Guns]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Impossible argument to win, as city preferences are 100% personal opinion. But very few would share your opinion on that one.

No doubt and I agree that city preferences are always personal opinion, but we are on a Flames board and nearly everybody is a homer. I love Calgary (born and raised) but from a players perspective, it isn't a whole lot better than a place like Winnipeg. Same goes for Edmonton.

[Tron_fdc]

Just to spitball this, even IF he asked for a trade the Flames asking price would be so astronomically ridiculously high it would never happen.

We are talking about an 80 pt 23 year old franchise player who is arguably one of the most entertaining players in the league. I can't even begin to speculate what he's worth.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Why is the expectation that our best player take a discount? Especially when his best buddy and the team captain didn't? I guess those guys are just greedy, too?

Its laughable that we'll spend big money on guys like Stajan, Wideman, Brouwer, Engelland etc but when time comes to pay our franchise player we all of the sudden go into austerity mode? We had no problem paying Monahan more than all his comps, or signing Gio until he's 40. But we can't pay the guy who runs our entire offense for his prime years? Risk ruining the relationship and this season too save an extra ~1M in cap space we might need in the future?

Its hilarious that some people defend that line of thinking while simultaneously blaming Gaudreau for wanting to be paid what he's worth.

If you think $6.5 -$7M for an RFA is 'austerity mode', you're an idiot. Or a crazed agent.

Also, it can easily be argued that both Monahan and Giordano did take discounts. Not to mention Brodie. Regardless, it isn't about discounts, it's about fair - both for the player, and the team.

But most of all, 'what he's worth' is a subjective phrase, and you don't get to decide what it is.

[Sutter_in_law]

Originally Posted by Par

You are a Jets fan, so I will ask you this

He's not a jets fan, he must have mentioned it on here a hundred times by now.

mind you, I thought he was too for a long time.