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Old 10-03-2016, 10:32 PM   #1
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what do you guys think of this one?

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Old 10-03-2016, 10:35 PM   #2
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Zero games. Gudas didn't have any chance to abort the hit when Vesey turned.
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Old 10-03-2016, 10:36 PM   #3
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Zero games. Gudas didn't have any chance to abort the hit when Vesey turned.
I agree with this. But I will add that it's still brutal and unfortunate. But the major penalty was enough
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Old 10-03-2016, 10:37 PM   #4
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Could have easily avoided the hit. Just absolutely dirty and unnecessary.


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I'd love to see Gudas in the middle of the Flames' defensive rotation.

Exciting and engaging player. Rough. Little bit dirty. Puts pucks on the net.
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Old 10-03-2016, 10:42 PM   #6
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It's the same thing every time. The hitter could/should have let differently, the guy being hit could/should have made a better choice without putting himself in that position.
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Old 10-03-2016, 10:47 PM   #7
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Gudas is a scummy headhunter with a bad history of dangerous hits.

He's an embarrassment to hockey. You might as well toss out the argument that it's partially Vesey's fault because it's basically ALL Vesey's fault for going into the corner with him - Gudas is incapable of being a responsible, honest player.

The sooner he's out of the league, the better.
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Old 10-03-2016, 10:48 PM   #8
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It's interesting. We all watched the same video, yet there are differing opinions on the hit.

I'm my opinion, the victim here should have done a better job protecting himself. You know that when you go into corners with speed, bodies are going to bump. The priority should be to protect yourself, then the puck. In my opinion, Vesey tried to make a cute play in tight quarters with a big player bearing down on him.

Gudas played that situation properly. Vesey should have tried to poke the puck in deep, and either prepare for the hit or try to avoid it.
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Old 10-03-2016, 10:48 PM   #9
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Also want to add that hockey is a dangerous ass sport, and these players are well compensated for the danger they face.
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Old 10-03-2016, 10:51 PM   #10
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Yeah, not sure what Gudas is supposed to do there. Vesey tried a move and wasn't quick enough to pull it off. Don't know much about Gudas history, but I'd say a regular boarding penalty.

If you turn your back to player coming to hit you, you better get out of the frickin way.
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Old 10-04-2016, 08:46 AM   #11
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Unlike the Rattie hit, I see this one as just bad luck. The last second turn by Vesey makes it hard to blame Gudas who was already committed to the hit. The only way to prevent situations like that is to totally take hitting out of the game.
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Old 10-04-2016, 08:54 AM   #12
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Unlike the Rattie hit, I see this one as just bad luck. The last second turn by Vesey makes it hard to blame Gudas who was already committed to the hit. The only way to prevent situations like that is to totally take hitting out of the game.
Or to actually teach kids coming up that they will get hit. I see these hits every game and I believe a factor in that is telling players they won't be hit from behind. A player should never be hit from behind but they also need to learn that turning your back to "protect the puck" is not a legitimate offensive option. We all see so many players making the quick turn back instead of absorbing a hit and they end up getting hurt.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:01 AM   #13
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It didn't matter what Vessey did... Turn the back or whatever because Gudas was going for a head shot anyway he can... He's a dirty hockey player that shouldn't be in the NHL although 50% on here will always disagree
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Yeah that was a boneheaded move on Vesey's part. This is a dangerous game played at very high speeds. Turning your back to a huge guy like Gudas is about as dumb as it gets. It looks like he made the move to try and avoid the hit, but failed miserably.

The people who seem opposed to the hit seem opposed to Gudas himself.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:10 AM   #15
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By now players should know what Gudas is all about. Someone forgot to tell Vesey. Maybe players should be setting Gudas up with a nice spear to the face when he goes in for the hill ... Spearing is just another part of hockey isn't it?
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You can tell by Gudas reaction that he didn't think it was dirty. He has committed to the hit when Vesey is shoulder/shoulder, and then Vesey spins last second.

Armchair experts forget how fast this game is played (especially at the NHL level). Gudas is a 200+ lb body what is he supposed to do with that momentum last second?
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You can tell by Gudas reaction that he didn't think it was dirty.

Armchair experts forget how fast this game is played (especially at the NHL level). Gudas is a 200+ lb body what is he supposed to do with that momentum last second?

Side step? Do anything BUT follow through? It's not that he makes contact, it's that he completely follows through on the hit. It's no more rare to see a player put his back out near the boards than it is to see a player adjust and not follow through. It happens all the time, but when the hitter doesn't adjust, a bunch of armchair experts go "oh well he's 200lbs! how can he possibly react!?"

Gudas reacts the same way every time, no matter who he's clipping in the head, hitting late, or charging. "What did I do?"

The guy is a goon. He's a scummy player. This isn't the worst hit he's ever made, not even close, but it's just another questionable hit in a long line from a guy with a history of disregarding the safety of others.

Players with a long history of dirty plays get zero benefit of the doubt.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:34 AM   #18
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Side step? Do anything BUT follow through? It's not that he makes contact, it's that he completely follows through on the hit. It's no more rare to see a player put his back out near the boards than it is to see a player adjust and not follow through. It happens all the time, but when the hitter doesn't adjust, a bunch of armchair experts go "oh well he's 200lbs! how can he possibly react!?"

Gudas reacts the same way every time, no matter who he's clipping in the head, hitting late, or charging. "What did I do?"

The guy is a goon. He's a scummy player. This isn't the worst hit he's ever made, not even close, but it's just another questionable hit in a long line from a guy with a history of disregarding the safety of others.

Players with a long history of dirty plays get zero benefit of the doubt.
Probably because his coach tells him to play his game, which is hitting and hitting hard...

What the hell is he supposed to do in this 1 split second decision? He could probably avoid the hit all together and allow Vesey to make whatever kind of play he wants wide open in the offensive zone? A hit that he should avoid because the other player put himself in a vulnerable position? Yeah that will go over well with his coach.

Also, according to Dreger, the Department of Player Safety didn't see that it broke any rules in the rulebook and there will be no supplemental discipline.

So, theres that...
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The guy is a goon. He's a scummy player. This isn't the worst hit he's ever made, not even close, but it's just another questionable hit in a long line from a guy with a history of disregarding the safety of others.

Players with a long history of dirty plays get zero benefit of the doubt.
Objection, character assassination. Is it my client that is on trial here or his actions?

Do you react to the same play if Gudas is wearing a Crosby jersey?
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:41 AM   #20
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Objection, character assassination. Is it my client that is on trial here or his actions?

Do you react to the same play if Gudas is wearing a Crosby jersey?
Are you aware how the NHL doles out suspensions? Past history is a huge factor.
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