The 2016 US American Election Thread

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by bob-loblaw

Michelle 2020?

That assumes that Trump will win this election because Michelle Obama wouldn't run against a Democratic incumbent POTUS...unless you think she might run for Congress or for Governor.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Meanwhile, Gary Johnson has another "Aleppo moment". At least he has a sense of humour about it.

http://www.nbcnews.com/card/gary-joh...leader-n656526

That guy is loopy. Completely unprepared to debate on a topic of any substance. You'd think that would automatically disqualify a candidate but Trump is proof that that is not the case.

[photon]

Trump seems to buy into any conspiracy theory that floats by, someone should really ask him who really did 7/11 9/11.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by photon

Trump seems to buy into any conspiracy theory that floats by, someone should really ask him who really did 7/11 9/11.

Bush. Everyone knows that.

[photon]

Newsweek is supposed to report today that Trump had illegal business dealings in Cuba around 2000

[Fuzz]

Are there any debates with 3rd party candidates involved? It seams they should have at least one.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Are there any debates with 3rd party candidates involved? It seams they should have at least one.

They have to meet a predefined level of support for the non partisan debate committee to add them to the debate (15% support on a few well known polls)

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Google is apparently anti-Trump too. Or not at all.





http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...clinton-228878

The Google conspiracy has been a popular on in Russia and Russian-like countries for a long time. I was on another board arguing with someone about something (not from Russia, but from a European country aligned with Russia) and told them to Google it and they thought it was funny because everyone knows Google's motive is to make them look bad. Apparently a lot of people believe this and Trump spouting it off now certainly doesn't help.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I think it is totally relevant. Hillary was obviously quite involved in the various fiascos, not only as the wife of the cheater, but she was actively involved with dealing with a few of the mistresses after. Sure Bill is in the wrong big time, but speaks to her character in a roundabout sad way.

Juanita Broaddrick, for one, hates Hillary as intensely as she hates Bill.

She did a Reddit AMA after Hillary's campaign put out a position paper about the dignity of rape victims.

[Senator Clay Davis]

While the election has been a trainwreck, it's been somewhat predictable. After weeks of media cycle going negative towards Hillary, we're in another strongly negative Trump news cycle. The difference is Trump always seems to perpetuate his bad cycles by doing dumb #### like the Khan thing, or keeping the Miss Universe thing going as he is now. And now more and more stories are coming out about him wanting women fired for being fat or ugly. He could bury these things a lot faster with an apology, instead he digs the grave deeper.

And has anyone in recent history projected more than the orange goblin? He calls women fat and ugly, he's obese and ugly. He calls Ted Cruz "Lyin Ted" and Hillary "Crooked Hillary", he lies and is more corrupt than either. He calls Rubio "Little Marco"....you figure that one out.

[photon]

Here's the Cuba thing:

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/14/d...da-504059.html

Documents show that the Trump company spent a minimum of $68,000 for its 1998 foray into Cuba at a time when the corporate expenditure of even a penny in the Caribbean country was prohibited without U.S. government approval. But the company did not spend the money directly. Instead, with Trump’s knowledge, executives funneled the cash for the Cuba trip through an American consulting firm called Seven Arrows Investment and Development Corporation. Once the business consultants traveled to the island and incurred the expenses for the venture, Seven Arrows instructed senior officers with Trump’s company—then called Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts—how to make it appear legal by linking it after-the-fact to a charitable effort.

The payment by Trump Hotels came just before the New York business mogul launched his first bid for the White House, seeking the nomination of the Reform Party. On his first day of the campaign, he traveled to Miami where he spoke to a group of Cuban-Americans, a critical voting bloc in the swing state. Trump vowed to maintain the embargo and never spend his or his companies’ money in Cuba until Fidel Castro was removed from power.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

While the election has been a trainwreck, it's been somewhat predictable. After weeks of media cycle going negative towards Hillary, we're in another strongly negative Trump news cycle. The difference is Trump always seems to perpetuate his bad cycles by doing dumb #### like the Khan thing, or keeping the Miss Universe thing going as he is now. And now more and more stories are coming out about him wanting women fired for being fat or ugly. He could bury these things a lot faster with an apology, instead he digs the grave deeper.

And has anyone in recent history projected more than the orange goblin? He calls women fat and ugly, he's obese and ugly. He calls Ted Cruz "Lyin Ted" and Hillary "Crooked Hillary", he lies and is more corrupt than either. He calls Rubio "Little Marco"....you figure that one out.

The women thing definitely but I might be weird (again) but I don't fault Trump for going after Khan. Khan stood up on a national stage and stuck a book in Trumps face questioning his Americanhood? Shouldn't Trump fire back or am I out to lunch?

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

The women thing definitely but I might be weird (again) but I don't fault Trump for going after Khan. Khan stood up on a national stage and stuck a book in Trumps face questioning his Americanhood? Shouldn't Trump fire back or am I out to lunch?

Have you had a chance to look at the lunch menu? Care to order now or should I come back?

[ernie]

I realize they are scheduled events and what not but I find it interesting how visible George W has been palling around with the Obama's. He was an awful president or rather a very malleable puppet for Rove and Cheney but it looks like he has developed a friendship with the his successors and in particular Michelle.

Coupled to some family friends a couple of weeks saying the first George Bush will vote Clinton, Jeb continuing to not get in line with the no backbone GOP who have all bowed to Trump, W spending this time in physical contact with the Obamas, Laura Bush insinuating she's voting for Clinton.......if I didn't know better I'd say the former president Bushes are making about as public a stand as they feel former GOP presidents can take.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

The women thing definitely but I might be weird (again) but I don't fault Trump for going after Khan. Khan stood up on a national stage and stuck a book in Trumps face questioning his Americanhood? Shouldn't Trump fire back or am I out to lunch?

Going after parents of a dead soldier is unquestionably one of the biggest losers any political candidate could do. He should have said I respect their sons sacrifice, and move on. Instead he went into attack mode because his fragile ego couldn't take it. Though I suppose to be fair it wasn't viewed as the worst thing he did (I think something like 75% disapproved), that was mocking the disabled reporter which was in the mid 80's for disapproval. At the very least he didn't keep going with that one, though his surrogates have continuously tried to deflect one that.

[station]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

The women thing definitely but I might be weird (again) but I don't fault Trump for going after Khan. Khan stood up on a national stage and stuck a book in Trumps face questioning his Americanhood? Shouldn't Trump fire back or am I out to lunch?

It's exactly what people mean they talk about 'being presidential'. The point is not taking the bait and showing some humilty. If he had said 'I have the greatest respect for our military veterans, especially Gold Star families who have paid the ultimate price. I have read the constitution and I will do everything I can to protect it. Etc, etc.' The whole thing goes away immediately instead of compounding for days on end. Plus attacking Gold Star families even in defense is just a big no-no.

[burn_this_city]

A draft dodging fraud attacked a gold star family who had actually experienced real sacrifice for the country. If the electorate wasn't so ridiculous and prejudiced it should have destroyed his candidacy.

[GirlySports]

True but the tone of the Khan speech still bothers me. Not sure how to explain it.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by photon

Here's the Cuba thing:

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/14/d...da-504059.html

Be interesting to see how this plays. Not sure if Trump has much support among ex-Cubans, but if he does this could cost him Florida, and thus any chance to win. Ex-Cubans will not like this at all and they are a big voting block in Florida.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Be interesting to see how this plays. Not sure if Trump has much support among ex-Cubans, but if he does this could cost him Florida, and thus any chance to win. Ex-Cubans will not like this at all and they are a big voting block in Florida.

Watched the video...there is an easy political ad to be made from his own words yet again.

This is what happens when you talk too much, are a relentless egomaniac and are just a terrible person.