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Old 09-26-2016, 09:59 AM   #12441
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One of my favorite Trump defenses yet: How can he lie on something he doesn't actually know (but still comments on...)?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/.../?tid=pm_pop_b
I think that is the way any good psychopath thinks. If you don't know the truth, then it gives you the license to say whatever you want and it's not "lying". It just means you were mistaken.

Donald Trump is like a real-life version of the King of OOO.

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It's either gonna be a mess which will make it unwatchable, or it'll be them both playing it safe which will make it totally boring. My hope is it totally tanks in the ratings, if it does well and Trump does poorly it'll be all he needs to pull out of the last two debates, or force concessions because "I bring the ratings".
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:45 AM   #12443
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what questions would you guys ask?

The 3 topics are:
America's Direction
Achieving Prosperity
Securing America

Each topic is two questions (one to each candidate, followed by rebuttal then 10 minutes debate)
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"Amazing!" needs to be added to the list.
There's going to mass alcohol poisoning if we add this.
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:51 AM   #12445
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The big bad MSM right guys!?
They allowed themselves to be bullied into letting Trump and the GOP dictate the narrative. Every time Trump complained about media bias against him, they altered their coverage to his benefit - anything to avoid looking biased or unbalanced.

The purpose of journalism is to report the facts, not to give equal play to moonbats and wingnuts so as not to offend anyone. The media has completely failed to live up to that.
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what questions would you guys ask?

The 3 topics are:
America's Direction
Achieving Prosperity
Securing America

Each topic is two questions (one to each candidate, followed by rebuttal then 10 minutes debate)


America's Direction: Terrible, 8 years of terrible. People are out of jobs, people are dying, borders being overrun. Terrible. I'm going to make it better, it's going to be better. It'll be great.

Achieving Prosperity: I'm going to bring in millions of jobs. Millions. The greatest jobs, the best. We're going to manufacture everything in America. Everything. China China China. China China.

Securing America: Build a wall, nuke em, build another wall and nuke em once more.
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Come on Iggy you did it wrong

America's direction - I don't like the way this country is going. But I'm going to bring in some amazing people and make America Strong again

Achieving prosperity - I've done an excellent job of building the tallest buildings in the world, so I'm going to bring in some excellent amazing people to make China and Canada pay more

Securing America - First of all, I don't hate Mexicans or Muslims, I have some amazing friends that are mexican and Muslims and some excellent employees that work hard for me, and I'll bring in more amazing excellent amazing people to build a wall that Mexico will pay for. I'll also make America great again.
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They allowed themselves to be bullied into letting Trump and the GOP dictate the narrative. Every time Trump complained about media bias against him, they altered their coverage to his benefit - anything to avoid looking biased or unbalanced.

The purpose of journalism is to report the facts, not to give equal play to moonbats and wingnuts so as not to offend anyone. The media has completely failed to live up to that.
Oh please. They played for ratings because that's what they do. There has a been a TON of negative reporting on Trump. There's a difference between not reporting it and it not making a difference, and people who legitimately believe the media isn't reporting his idiocies are desperate for someone to blame at how embarrassingly close this election is. Every day we hear about more stupid things he's doing, and yes, we hear it in the media.

This whole "main stream media" thing has somehow gone from Alex Jones territory to something much more widespread.
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I'd like to see a lot of 'my opponent has said' moments from Clinton tonight. I think she needs to keep the old Donald in people's minds, force him into situations where he'll flatly deny things that we all know he said, make him seem like the one who will say or do anything to get elected. Either you force him to lie about what he previously said, or flatly disavow it, or attempt to explain why he's changed his mind. Any of those are bad moments for Trump and would keep him on his heels. She can be really tough and aggressive (as long as she stays away from personal insults), because he can't very well claim that he got bullied by her.

On the other hand, I think it's probably likely that she plays it safe and sticks to her own policy for the most part, but I don't think she has an opportunity to get anything more than a draw out of that strategy unless Trump self-destructs.
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I think Clinton's best move here is to let Trump try to bully his way like he did on a 12 person stage in the primaries. Let him punch himself out, while looking awful, and then go for the throat and get him stuttering while pressing him on policy details.
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I will be very surprised if we don't get Xanax Donald up there. Even saying the exact same things, Xanax Donald will win that debate over the 12-year old Trump.
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I will be very surprised if we don't get Xanax Donald up there. Even saying the exact same things, Xanax Donald will win that debate over the 12-year old Trump.
I think we certainly will see a very toned down Trump on his best behaviour tonight. He needs to win moderates and independents tonight and those people won't be swinging towards an over-the-top and aggressive Trump.
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If we don't see easily baited Trump resulting in rambling, no knowledge, Trump hysterics, I'm going to be pretty disappointed.
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I predict a fairly disciplined Trump. He is actually in the race now, and a decent performance would go a long ways.

I never understand why politicians don't act a little contrite when they re-frame opinions that were poorly stated or even outright outrageous. The language smiths behind them are so conservative, and risk-averse.
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Old 09-26-2016, 12:46 PM   #12455
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Old 09-26-2016, 12:48 PM   #12456
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This debate is destined for "Blue balls in your heart" territory for sure. The hype is so strong and everyone is expecting it to be a totally unique (and trainwreckish) Presidential debate, but it's almost certainly going to end up being the same thing we've seen before, just with a reality TV star instead of a politician. I think we're more likely to see unhinged Trump in the last two debates, assuming they happen.
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This debate is destined for "Blue balls in your heart" territory for sure. The hype is so strong and everyone is expecting it to be a totally unique (and trainwreckish) Presidential debate, but it's almost certainly going to end up being the same thing we've seen before, just with a reality TV star instead of a politician. I think we're more likely to see unhinged Trump in the last two debates, assuming they happen.
Meh, almost definitely not. We are at the point where both candidates every move has been nano-coached. These aren't the "real" candidates anymore, but the product of their party machinery.
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Meh, almost definitely not. We are at the point where both candidates every move has been nano-coached. These aren't the "real" candidates anymore, but the product of their party machinery.
Trump won't have a teleprompter, he is going to have to work off script. And we know what happens then...I mean sure, they practice and try to coach him, but I'd imagine trump to be about as coachable as a 4 year old. A little bit of bait and he will be full Trump.
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