[News] Jacob Trouba Demands Trade

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Trouba for Hamonic + Barzal would be pretty close in value I would think and would make sense for both clubs.

IMO Hamonic is better than Trouba right now, but Trouba probably has more overall potential overall. Honestly I think Hamonic for Trouba straight up is fair, adding Barzal is too much. The Oilers need a guy like Trouba or Hamonic in the worst way, hopefully neither happens.

Regardless, Winnipeg shouldn't be targeting another RH Dman anyway. Trading Myers would make more sense but I suspect that's not really what this is about for Trouba. Kid clearly just doesn't want to be a Jet.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Right. But is Trouba much better than Larsson and Klefbom?

Yes...meaningfully

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Pretty funny seeing people assess a GM by how many trades he makes. Ken Holland says hi.

I don't think that's what it is - moreover that he doesn't have the track record that has been suggested. I think he showed good patience in the Kane situation but I don't think the return is as good as it is made out to be, largely because Bogosian also went the other way.
But I hope the Jets do well here because I think Trouba is being a bit of a turd in the situation. If he wants more playing time - earn it. He should want to be part of a good team with a deep blueline.

[transplant99]

Hmmmm...

Kevin Cheveldayoff, Executive Vice-President & General Manager, today issued the following statement on behalf of the Winnipeg Jets with regards to defenceman Jacob Trouba:

"We are aware of the statement issued by Kurt Overhardt regarding Jacob Trouba.

"Over the last three seasons, Jacob Trouba has played a key role for the Winnipeg Jets and in our view still represents an important part of the long-term future of our club. As such, any decisions made regarding Jacob Trouba will be made in the best interest of the Winnipeg Jets Hockey Club.

"As an unsigned player, we cannot compel Jacob to report to training camp at this time. However, we will continue to work diligently to resolve this matter. We will have no further comment on this matter until such time as it is resolved."

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

I don't think that's what it is - moreover that he doesn't have the track record that has been suggested. I think he showed good patience in the Kane situation but I don't think the return is as good as it is made out to be, largely because Bogosian also went the other way.
But I hope the Jets do well here because I think Trouba is being a bit of a turd in the situation. If he wants more playing time - earn it. He should want to be part of a good team with a deep blueline.

If I'm a young player that wants to win, Chevy as a gm wouldn't inspire me. Winnipeg could easily become the Montreal Expos of the NHL, a development team for the rest of the league. They let their captain (who wanted to stay) walk. They cut loose a vet (Stempniak) who wanted to stay. Chevy preaching patience and saying the draft is the only way to build a team (because he doesn't trade and can't attract free agents) does not inspire a winning culture. While I agree Trouba should man up and play until he can become a ufa, can't really blame him for wanting out.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Hmmmm...

Can't really come out and say Trouba is being a d!ck as that isn't good for any trade leverage. He should have acted before this came out to avoid this whole mess. It takes a crisis before Chevy acts on a problem that should have been dealt with before this hits the press.

[Jets4Life]

Jets need a LHD. We can also get a kings ransom back, considering Trouba is still only 22.

[Cantrader]

Originally Posted by HelloHockeyFans

Our own Brian Elliot is also a client of the same agent. Other notables other than Turris who were moved to new teams after stalls in talks are Ryan Johanssen and Kerby Rychel.

Good that he is not the same agent for Johnny or the agent would have gotten Johnny out too. A radio guy said that this agent only cares about making his money and the players may not even wanted to leave the current team.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Cantrader

Good that he is not the same agent for Johnny or the agent would have gotten Johnny out too. A radio guy said that this agent only cares about making his money and the players may not even wanted to leave the current team.

An agent who makes extreme statements or demands without the consent and support of their client wouldn't be in business for very long.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Can't really come out and say Trouba is being a d!ck as that isn't good for any trade leverage. He should have acted before this came out to avoid this whole mess. It takes a crisis before Chevy acts on a problem that should have been dealt with before this hits the press.

Agent says they asked for a request in May. Aside from Chevy not having made the trade, what else can he do ? Not much.

[dying4acup]

Same agent as Ryan Johanssen, and Kyle Turris.

Overheardt is quickly getting the reputation of OVERKILL, and it wouldn't surprise me slightly if his clients start dropping in the draft.

GMs don't really like dealing with this guy, and difficult things happen a lot of times. The Ryan Johanssen negotiations went really sour.

But maybe I know nothing.

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

If I'm a young player that wants to win, Chevy as a gm wouldn't inspire me. Winnipeg could easily become the Montreal Expos of the NHL, a development team for the rest of the league.

Become?

The moment the Canadian dollar dropped below par they turned back into the same sad sack franchise they were in the early 90's. The salary cap and revenue sharing help... but there is nothing else to really point at and feel good about.

They are in no way a desirable destination. The only way to become one would be to become a cup contender. Good luck with that since situations like this and Kane seem to indicate nobody wants to be there in the first place.

[Snuffleupagus]

I think Chevy will stick it to Trouba for the good of the franchise, lets face it Winnipeg is probably #30 or (29b with Edmonton) on every players wish list to live in.

[calgarywinning]

If Trouba wants out of Winnipeg I want back in.

Seriously, the fact that Canada has another team is a very positive thing. Let's not forget who and where and why and what and how. For real.

Winnipeg Jets >> Atlanta Thrashers >> Desert Knights.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Trouba for Hamonic + Barzal would be pretty close in value I would think and would make sense for both clubs.

IIRC a lot of speculation that the Islanders don't want to pay Trouba the salary he is asking for.

Hamonic at $3.8 million cap hit and Barzal on a ELC is probably better for the Islanders than Trouba at $6 to 7 million.

Especially with Tavares' contract up in 2 years.

[N26]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

IIRC a lot of speculation that the Islanders don't want to pay Trouba the salary he is asking for.

Hamonic at $3.8 million cap hit and Barzal on a ELC is probably better for the Islanders than Trouba at $6 to 7 million.

Especially with Tavares' contract up in 2 years.

First of all, I agree that Hamonic AND Barzal is an overpay but secondly I agree with this emphatically!

Hamonic's deal is sweet and for right now and probably for a little while longer, he is the better, more complete, player. Plus Tavares is gonna get paid big after what i expect to be a couple of great seasons.

Trouba is good and may become top tier but that deal doesn't make sense for the Islanders. Especially if he wants top tier money now. Don't fix what ain't broke.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

If I'm a young player that wants to win, Chevy as a gm wouldn't inspire me. Winnipeg could easily become the Montreal Expos of the NHL, a development team for the rest of the league. They let their captain (who wanted to stay) walk. They cut loose a vet (Stempniak) who wanted to stay. Chevy preaching patience and saying the draft is the only way to build a team (because he doesn't trade and can't attract free agents) does not inspire a winning culture. While I agree Trouba should man up and play until he can become a ufa, can't really blame him for wanting out.

Internal cap. Any GM in Winnipeg is going to have to take the same approach. People think just because there's a cap in the league now every franchise is on an even playing field. Truth is this is still a league where some teams are handicapped by finances. And since it wasn't so long ago that the Flames were one of those franchises (and they could become one again), I'm not going to criticize the moves (or lack of moves) made by GMs who are operating under budgets with less flexibility than their peers.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Internal cap. Any GM in Winnipeg is going to have to take the same approach. People think just because there's a cap in the league now every franchise is on an even playing field. Truth is this is still a league where some teams are handicapped by finances. And since it wasn't so long ago that the Flames were one of those franchises (and they could become one again), I'm not going to criticize the moves (or lack of moves) made by GMs who are operating under budgets with less flexibility than their peers.

Panthers also have an internal cap. It didn't stop them from being active in both the trade and free agent market. Coyotes also have made plenty of trades in recent years too.

[stang]

So does the fact that he'd have to be protected make any difference in his value?

Like Nurse plus for Trouba is an exempt player for an un exempt player. Does that help in values

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by stang

So does the fact that he'd have to be protected make any difference in his value?

Like Nurse plus for Trouba is an exempt player for an un exempt player. Does that help in values

I doubt he would accept that trade as he wants to play on an american team. The whole "he's third on the dept chart as a RHD" is a smoke screen as he's still playing over 22 minutes a game. He's simply never wanted to be in Winnipeg or Canada. It's not a lot different than what the Flames are going through with Gaudreau in that some of these american born players want to play in the US close to home.