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View Poll Results: Assuming a term of 7 years what will Gaudreau's AAV end up being?
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6.500 - 6.625
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9 |
1.28% |
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6.625 - 6.750
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5 |
0.71% |
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6.750 - 6.875
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21 |
2.99% |
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6.875 - 7.000
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59 |
8.40% |
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7.000 - 7.125
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89 |
12.68% |
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7.125 - 7.250
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85 |
12.11% |
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7.250 - 7.375
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112 |
15.95% |
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7.375 - 7.500
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102 |
14.53% |
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7.500 - 7.625
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71 |
10.11% |
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7.625 - 7.750
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38 |
5.41% |
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7.750 - 7.875
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39 |
5.56% |
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7.875 - 8.000
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33 |
4.70% |
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8.000 - 8.125
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21 |
2.99% |
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8.125 - 8.250
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6 |
0.85% |
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8.250 - 8.375
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1 |
0.14% |
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8.375 - 8.500
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11 |
1.57% |
09-24-2016, 02:53 PM
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#2521
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
4 years keeps him an RFA. If he wants to sign an offer sheet we will gladly pocket the four first rounders. Any term shorter than 8 and longer than 3 on that third deal would be a win for the Flames. In that situation, 8 is what the player usually wants not the team.
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Yeah, that's why I said to the front door, not out of front door. Conroy alluded to it previously, they don't want a four year deal, it gets players too close to that UFA status, and they start thinking, scheming, gets harder to lock them up.
Fine with a bridge deal, but make it two or three years. Four get him too close to UFA status for comfort.
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09-24-2016, 03:02 PM
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#2522
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One problem with a 2 year bridge deal is that CP is going to have to GO THROUGH THIS ALL AGAIN in 2 years..
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09-24-2016, 03:03 PM
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#2523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern
I guarantee if he said that, this forum would have blown up. He said 'few' years.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
He said "future"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfman
First time I heard "three" but after a couple listens it's not "three".
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09-24-2016, 03:06 PM
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#2524
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whoever heard "three" instead of "few" needs to get their ears checked. seriously.
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09-24-2016, 03:16 PM
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#2525
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Originally Posted by TheoFleury
Elite forwards can be effective well into their 30s. The key is to manage the risk and to avoid contracts that take them past 35.
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This statement is tough. They can be effective, but in order for a team to be competitive a good chunk of players have to outperform their contracts.
So if you've got a guy earning $10M in his mid 30s and putting up ~50 points or so you are going to be in trouble. You can survive if you can surround that player with young guys on ELCs that are vastly out-performing their contracts but thats a gamble.
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09-24-2016, 03:53 PM
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#2526
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Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan
Please, Until a Contract is signed, for the sanity of everyone here
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only until a contract is signed? 
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09-24-2016, 03:56 PM
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#2527
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
This statement is tough. They can be effective, but in order for a team to be competitive a good chunk of players have to outperform their contracts.
So if you've got a guy earning $10M in his mid 30s and putting up ~50 points or so you are going to be in trouble. You can survive if you can surround that player with young guys on ELCs that are vastly out-performing their contracts but thats a gamble.
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I think it will be interesting to see how some of the elite players (Crosby for example) continue to play as they reach their early 30s. I think every year that passes the next generation of athletes gets better and better, which includes maintaining their level of play, or close to it for a longer period time.
I think people look at averages and go, players fall off at the 30 year mark, which is true for the majority. I'm not so sure it is true for the elite or will be true for the elite moving forward.
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09-24-2016, 04:38 PM
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#2528
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
4 years keeps him an RFA. If he wants to sign an offer sheet we will gladly pocket the four first rounders. Any term shorter than 8 and longer than 3 on that third deal would be a win for the Flames. In that situation, 8 is what the player usually wants not the team.
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Issue with a 4yr contract is the cap-hit he'll be due once that contract ends. If he turns out to be a perennial top 10 scorer in this league, it's likely he'll command a $10M+ AAV if we're looking to re-sign him 4 years from now.
I'd sooner give him the $8M AAV he's after today, in order to get an 8yr term, than sign him to a 4yr deal, even if it was for a meager $6M AAV.
I still think he signs a 7 or 8 year deal for around $7M AAV.
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09-24-2016, 05:05 PM
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#2529
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fonz
Issue with a 4yr contract is the cap-hit he'll be due once that contract ends. If he turns out to be a perennial top 10 scorer in this league, it's likely he'll command a $10M+ AAV if we're looking to re-sign him 4 years from now.
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That's fine by me. You'll have a huge sample to base the contract off of, it lines up with the expirations on both Frolik+Brouwer so you'll have the room to sign him, and you're paying him through prime years 27-34, nothing extending into "done" years (35,36,37,38 etc)
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09-24-2016, 05:30 PM
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#2530
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by BigFlameDog
Where are negotiations "at" exactly?
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We can only go by what has been speculated in the media. By all reports, they aren't close.
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09-24-2016, 06:23 PM
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#2531
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Lifetime Suspension
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Can anyone confirm if Ken King has taken Gaudreau on a horse back ride?
/please read
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09-24-2016, 06:26 PM
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#2532
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Can anyone confirm if Ken King has taken Gaudreau on a horse back ride?
/please read
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Confirmed.
Last edited by Drak; 09-24-2016 at 06:33 PM.
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09-24-2016, 07:27 PM
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#2533
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Originally Posted by Drak
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Hahaha he looks way too happy. Is that from today's game?
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09-24-2016, 08:41 PM
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#2534
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Last year. Today was Hamilton and Elliott.
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09-24-2016, 08:48 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Last year. Today was Hamilton and Elliott.
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Elliott did the coin toss!
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09-24-2016, 10:59 PM
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#2536
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Another day and no contract. The plot thickens.
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09-24-2016, 11:06 PM
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First Line Centre
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I bet we hear the news on Monday, September 26th 2016 at 10:00 AM MT.
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09-24-2016, 11:08 PM
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#2538
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Originally Posted by hockey.modern
I bet we hear the news on Monday, September 26th 2016 at 10:00 AM MT.
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What are you willing to bet?
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09-24-2016, 11:08 PM
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#2539
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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That an incredibly specific time.
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09-24-2016, 11:09 PM
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#2540
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fonz
What are you willing to bet?
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Dickbutt.png until he's signed?
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