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View Poll Results: Assuming a term of 7 years what will Gaudreau's AAV end up being?
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6.500 - 6.625
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9 |
1.28% |
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6.625 - 6.750
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5 |
0.71% |
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6.750 - 6.875
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21 |
2.99% |
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6.875 - 7.000
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59 |
8.40% |
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7.000 - 7.125
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89 |
12.68% |
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7.125 - 7.250
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85 |
12.11% |
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7.250 - 7.375
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112 |
15.95% |
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7.375 - 7.500
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102 |
14.53% |
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7.500 - 7.625
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71 |
10.11% |
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7.625 - 7.750
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38 |
5.41% |
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7.750 - 7.875
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39 |
5.56% |
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7.875 - 8.000
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33 |
4.70% |
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8.000 - 8.125
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21 |
2.99% |
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8.125 - 8.250
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6 |
0.85% |
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8.250 - 8.375
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1 |
0.14% |
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8.375 - 8.500
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11 |
1.57% |
09-23-2016, 02:06 PM
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#2381
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: CGY
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Agreed. I let my exasperation get the better of me. Apologies for the dickish manner of my posts.
Gaudreavertime, I harbor no animosity towards you. In fact, I usually find you quite novel -- it's just that you can also be extremely annoying. No offense, I know I can be abrasive as well.
Hopefully Johnny signs soon.
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09-23-2016, 02:07 PM
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#2382
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
Well technically, 5:2 odds for me.
I'd say 82 points would be fair if I were the bookkeeper, assuming he plays 80 games. It's tough to say with the new coaching though.
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You have stated multiple times in this thread that Johnny is an 80 point player. And you have called anyone who challenged that statement pedantic.
Okay, put your money where your posting style is:
Over/under at 79.5 points. If he gets 80 points you win. If he doesn't, I win. No conditions, no hedging on games played. 80 points or not 80 points.
I am there for any size you like up to $1,000 but minimum $100.
Show us that you actually believe what you are demanding that the Flames should (unconditionally) believe.
Put up or shut up.
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09-23-2016, 02:08 PM
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#2383
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
You have stated multiple times in this thread that Johnny is an 80 point player. And you have called anyone who challenged that statement pedantic.
Okay, put your money where your posting style is:
Over/under at 79.5 points. If he gets 80 points you win. If he doesn't, I win. No conditions, no hedging on games played. 80 points or not 80 points.
I am there for any size you like up to $1,000 but minimum $100.
Show us that you actually believe what you are demanding that the Flames should (unconditionally) believe.
Put up or shut up.
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09-23-2016, 02:10 PM
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#2384
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What does that mean? I have no idea what that reference is
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09-23-2016, 02:10 PM
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#2385
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Stamkos as a UFA with league wide intrest just got 8.5...Gaudreau is an RFA with 2 NHL seasons under his belt. I really hope they aren't actually expecting 8M
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By re-signing with his current team at Yzerman's ask he basically waived his UFA leverage. He left money on the table to stay where he was comfortable.
The other thing is that he's already peaked offensively and is not quite the scoring machine he was a few years back.
Johnny's situation is different in that his most productive seasons are probably going to be the next 3.
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The thing is, my posts, thoughts and insights may be my opinions but they're also quite factual.
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Last edited by saillias; 09-23-2016 at 02:13 PM.
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09-23-2016, 02:12 PM
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#2386
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Originally Posted by saillias
By re-signing with his current team at Yzerman's ask he basically waived his UFA leverage. He left money on the table to stay where he was comfortable.
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No he didn't. He had UFA status. He was free to talk to all teams. The fact that he signed with Tampa does not alter that in the slightest.
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09-23-2016, 02:13 PM
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#2387
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
What does that mean? I have no idea what that reference is
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basically the cartoon equivalent of:
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09-23-2016, 02:17 PM
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#2388
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I don't remember the exact numbers, but with the difference in taxes from Florida to Ontario. Toronto would have had to sign him for (approx) 11 mil/ season to compete, maybe more. Not comparable situations at all.
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09-23-2016, 02:17 PM
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#2389
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
What does that mean? I have no idea what that reference is
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09-23-2016, 02:17 PM
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#2390
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
No he didn't. He had UFA status. He was free to talk to all teams. The fact that he signed with Tampa does not alter that in the slightest.
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Not really sure what your point is but it seems very semantics based
He left money on the table.
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Originally Posted by JobHopper
The thing is, my posts, thoughts and insights may be my opinions but they're also quite factual.
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09-23-2016, 02:19 PM
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#2391
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
He left money on the table.
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As CalgaryFan1988 points out, he left the taxman's money on the table. It appears that he never received an offer that would have given him more take-home pay than he is going to get in Tampa.
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09-23-2016, 02:19 PM
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#2392
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
How about looking at some other people who picked up a lot of points in meaningless games. Mikael Backlund ... good examples.
Backlund:
Pre Feb 11: GP-53, G-8, A-18, P-26. Basically 0.5 PPG.
Post Feb 11: GP-29, G-13, A-8, P-21. Now a 0.72 PPG player.
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Highly misleading. Backlund's struggles came when he was buried on the 3rd/4th lines with Bollig, Jones, Bouma, Raymond.
Backlund
The 40 game stretch between Nov 05 and Feb 11 seems to be the most "normal" stretch. You can see his shooting percentage% spiked in the late parts of the season, but it was also unsustainably low in the early parts of the season along with his bizarrely reduced ice time.
...I'll take an average 0.63 PPG any day from him. That's a 52 point pace.
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09-23-2016, 02:19 PM
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#2393
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: CGY
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edit: oh sorry, thought we were posting gifs
edit 2: not sorry. 
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09-23-2016, 02:20 PM
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#2394
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
By re-signing with his current team at Yzerman's ask he basically waived his UFA leverage. He left money on the table to stay where he was comfortable.
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https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs...ee-agency.html
The tax differences and the eight year contract made it so he didn't leave money on the table.
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And Stamkos’ hometown Maple Leafs, due to a 53.53 per cent combined federal/provincial tax rate, would have to offer him $12.37 million annually over seven years to net the same as he’d make over eight years at $8.5 million in Tampa, according to national sports tax guru Robert Raiola, the director of the Sports and Entertainment group at PKF O’Connor Davis, who has professional sports clients throughout the country.
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Even if Toronto could have offered him an eight year contract it would have had to been nearly 11M before he ended up with the same take home pay.
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09-23-2016, 02:20 PM
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#2395
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
As CalgaryFan1988 points out, he left the taxman's money on the table. It appears that he never received an offer that would have given him more take-home pay than he is going to get in Tampa.
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You sure? The CEO of Canadian Tire was there at the Toronto pitch apparently. Guy had a big dowry
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Originally Posted by JobHopper
The thing is, my posts, thoughts and insights may be my opinions but they're also quite factual.
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09-23-2016, 02:20 PM
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#2396
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
Not really sure what your point is but it seems very semantics based
He left money on the table.
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How do you know that?
Here's what I know: he was a UFA and he chose to sign with Tampa for $8.5M per year AAV.
Saying he waived his UFA status is just wrong.
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09-23-2016, 02:21 PM
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#2397
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by jemjey
[IMG]
edit: oh sorry, thought we were posting gifs
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09-23-2016, 02:22 PM
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#2398
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nachodamus.
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MMF, That is amazing.
I have one I found that is brand new but I'm saving it for the home opener 
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09-23-2016, 02:24 PM
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#2399
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan
MMF, That is amazing.
I have one I found that is brand new but I'm saving it for the home opener |
Boooo....Bring some life back into this thread.
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09-23-2016, 02:24 PM
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#2400
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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nvm...friday celebrating started too early.
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