[News] Backlund has a concussion

[442scotty]

Guys dropping like flies in a waste of time tournament... hope team NA loses today and Gaudreau gets out in one piece

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

How do you figure?

Concussions are preordained. If he didn't play and get that concussion during the tournament it would have hunted him down and concussed him in an elaborate manner a la Final Destination.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Canehdianman

a good reminder to keep your head up, I suppose.

If it hadn't happened in the World Cup, it would have happened during an NHL game.

391 NHL GP without a concussion that I can recall.

Would have? No.
Could have? Could have to anyone.

[Locke]

Yay!! World Cup!

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Yes he did. First point of contact was the head.

Debatable.

Either way Backlund was reaching forward and the guy who hit him was basically stopped and very clearly put out his shoulder without jumping or targeting the head.

Unfortunate but clean.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

391 NHL GP without a concussion that I can recall.

Would have? No.
Could have? Could have to anyone.

Listen, I've been as big a Backlund booster on this forum as their is over the years, I love his game and have for a long time but you're kidding yourself if you can't see the guy has an injury problem.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Debatable.

Either way Backlund was reaching forward and the guy who hit him was basically stopped and very clearly put out his shoulder without jumping or targeting the head.

Unfortunate but clean.

How is it debatable? They showed it in slow motion after the hit during the game and a close-up view. Without a doubt the first point of contact was the face/head.

Anyone who is calling this a clean hit obviously missed the rule changes for hits to the head.

[Joe Nieuwendyk]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The best thing to happen right now would be for North America to lose to get Gaudreau out.

"Hey Johnny! Big fan! I hope you lose!"

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

How is it debatable? They showed it in slow motion after the hit during the game and a close-up view. Without a doubt the first point of contact was the face/head.

Huh?

You said it was a dirty hit to the head.

First point of contact is not the same is targeting is not the same as "dirty".

Anyone who thinks that rules dictate dirty/clean obviously doesn't understand...well...the basics of what rules are and what dirty means.

[Bourque's Twin]

Gaudreau is the only player left on the Flames

Frolik is out, Backlund is injured, Jokipakka is out.

So happy Gio, Brodie and Hamilton aren't on their respective teams.

[1qqaaz]

I knew this was going happen. Typical Backlund. I hope it's nothing too serious.

If it is a bit longer, I wonder if this makes it easier for Jankowski to make the team.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

How is it debatable? They showed it in slow motion after the hit during the game and a close-up view. Without a doubt the first point of contact was the face/head.

Anyone who is calling this a clean hit obviously missed the rule changes for hits to the head.

First point of contact...... Head.

Targeting the Head.... Nope.

Watch it again, there's a definite difference.

[Phaneufenstein]

Obviosly sucks but Backlund put himself in a bad position there.
We harped on Taylor Hall all these years for exactly the same type of reckless play.
Lepisto has no way of avoiding contact with the head with Backlund so low.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Listen, I've been as big a Backlund booster on this forum as their is over the years, I love his game and have for a long time but you're kidding yourself if you can't see the guy has an injury problem.

I think tweaking a groin, shoulder on a routine hit, broken bone on a slapper ... those can have something to do with how you're built or how you can weather the NHL as a contact sport.

Getting hit in the face by a shoulder and having a concussion is sort of like saying a pencil dropped is gravity prone.

Another conversation we had today was about McDavid. His collarbone break last year was a bit of a surprise. Is he brittle?

[NuclearFart]

Pretty clear if you watch the slow mo replays the first point of contact was the head, but Backlund was partly to blame because his head is tilted down and jutting forward, making his head the most forward part of his body. Had he merely skated straight into the boards in that position he would have smacked his head.

Some guys are injury prone. Chalk it up to reckless playing style, lack of situational awareness, old injuries which never healed properly, lesser skating technique/balance, genetic connective tissue problems...etc. For whatever reason(s), Backlund is in this group.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by Canehdianman

No it wasn't. He didn't target the head.

The head doesn't have to be the target.

[Knut]

^ Also luck of the draw.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by theslymonkey

First point of contact...... Head.

Targeting the Head.... Nope.

Watch it again, there's a definite difference.

48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A hit resulting in contact with an opponent’s head where the head was the main point of contact and such contact to the head was avoidable is not permitted.

Trying to copy and paste the rest but my stupid Apple phone won't let me. If anyone else can post the rest would be great.

It does speak on how it will be considered if the head couldn't be avoided if the player made any sudden movements before the hit but that clearly doesn't happen here. Backlund made no movements before his head was the primary point of contact.

Illegal check to the head by the rule books definition.

[Flash Walken]

Edit: replying to bingo

McDavid looks borderline out of control at top speed. His Collarbone injury in my opinion is a side effect of not being fully in control.

I anticipate we will continue to see clips of him going heavily into the endboards until he adjusts his speed and skating style.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Huh?

You said it was a dirty hit to the head.

First point of contact is not the same is targeting is not the same as "dirty".

Anyone who thinks that rules dictate dirty/clean obviously doesn't understand...well...the basics of what rules are and what dirty means.

Clearly you don't know about the new rule changes for hits to the head. You don't need to target the head for it to be considered an illegal head hit. You could be going for a clean body check and accidentally hit the head and it would still be considered dirty.