Machete attack at Marlborough mall

[iggy_oi]

Not a lot of details available yet

http://globalnews.ca/news/2946766/la...lved-incident/

[btimbit]

Cop got attacked by a machete? Jesus Christ.

####ing Marlborough. I feel like I might catch a stray bullet just from reading the article

[Fuzz]

Ahhh, good ol' Marlem.

[Timbo]

Yikes ! I know a few CPS in that district.

[Flames_Gimp]

and the guy wasn't shot and killed? wow can't believe he tried the taser

[Regulator75]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Ahhh, good ol' Marlem.

No, this is not a thing.
It's an insult to Harlem.

[YYC in LAX]

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[KTrain]

If it's going to happen at a mall in Calgary it's going to Marlborough. That place is the worst mall in Calgary. That includes the T&T down the street.

[Acey]

Police can't win.

"The offender turned to engage the officer at which time the officer engage deployed his Taser, however, it proved ineffective," explained Daroux. "A physical struggle then ensued when the man produced a large bladed weapon and severely injured our officer."

"The officer responded by discharging his firearm."

He is now severely injured because he didn't initially shoot him, but people would be irate if he had shot him prior to attempting the taser. Split second decisions... and the officer loses either way.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/suspect-sh...mall-1.3076781

[OutOfTheCube]

Odd situation. So it was later in the pursuit that he "produced a large bladed weapon"? What was he assaulting people with at the train station? Obviously not a machete, or we'd be hearing about a lot more injuries. So where did the machete come from?

[calgaryblood]

Does a thread about an officer injured have to turn into a NE/Marlbourough hate debate?

I mean it's not like a knife attack hasn't ever happened in other areas of the city.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Odd situation. So it was later in the pursuit that he "produced a large bladed weapon"? What was he assaulting people with at the train station? Obviously not a machete, or we'd be hearing about a lot more injuries. So where did the machete come from?

Maybe he was just punching people, but it was also apparent that he had a weapon so the call came in as "assaulting with a weapon". Dunno.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Acey

Police can't win.



He is now severely injured because he didn't initially shoot him, but people would be irate if he had shot him prior to attempting the taser. Split second decisions... and the officer loses either way.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/suspect-sh...mall-1.3076781

I know a few CPS officers and I hope this one makes a full recovery.

That said, it is kind of part of their job description. IMO, what the officer did shows much more bravery and responsibility than shooting the guy right away would have. It really should be their last response, and so it was. Unfortunately, he was hurt in the process and that is indeed terrible.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Acey

Police can't win.

He is now severely injured because he didn't initially shoot him, but people would be irate if he had shot him prior to attempting the taser. Split second decisions... and the officer loses either way.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/suspect-sh...mall-1.3076781

I agree, and it sucks, but what do you want to do? Short of giving Police the authority to terminate threats with extreme prejudice there isnt an easy answer.

This is effectively 'Suicide by Cop.' And while I very much understand how this sucks for the Officer involved, I'm at a loss as to alternatives.

The fact of the matter is, when someone actively plans something like this he has the advantage over a Police Officer who is on the back foot and is forced to react as best he can.

From the article, this Officer followed protocol and gave this individual every opportunity to cease and desist and he got injured because of it.

It sounds callous to just say "its part of the job" but...it is part of the job. An unpleasant and regrettable part.

[takinghits]

Originally Posted by Acey

Police can't win.



He is now severely injured because he didn't initially shoot him, but people would be irate if he had shot him prior to attempting the taser. Split second decisions... and the officer loses either way.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/suspect-sh...mall-1.3076781

Do you have a link to story where people are blaming the police officer?

[Acey]

Originally Posted by takinghits

Do you have a link to story where people are blaming the police officer?

No, as I'm saying that would be the scenario (and has historically been the scenario) when police shoot people armed with knives/swords/machetes.

[djsFlames]

A shot to the knee/foot you know is something you could probably justify and should render the assailant unable to cause anyone much harm. Just don't shoot in lethal places, pretty simple.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

A shot to the knee/foot you know is something you could probably justify and should render the assailant unable to cause anyone much harm. Just don't shoot in lethal places, pretty simple.

Have you ever fired a handgun under pressure/threat? Its no picnic.

I'll admit that I havent, but I know people who have and they're adamant that you're just as likely to not be able to hit that 'non-lethal' target and wind up in the same position or worse.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

A shot to the knee/foot you know is something you could probably justify and should render the assailant unable to cause anyone much harm. Just don't shoot in lethal places, pretty simple.

Yah, picking off non leathal body parts with a hand gun, during an altercation, with likely a moving target, while you are like fearing for you life is pretty simple........

Says some one who has clearly never fired a hand gun and clearly never been in that situation. And the fact you haven't isn't a critique, but it's un-educated opinions like yours that are the problem in the first place. The belief and then subsequent expectation that a police officer should be able to easily decide and execute shooting asalants in parts of the body that wouldn't risk a leathal outcome is so redicilous.

[Kjesse]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

A shot to the knee/foot you know is something you could probably justify and should render the assailant unable to cause anyone much harm. Just don't shoot in lethal places, pretty simple.

My understanding is that's exactly what they aren't supposed to do -- if you pull your gun you have to prepared to use it, and all shots are to the main body mass. Shooting for limb is dangerous for the officer and the public because there's a much greater chance you miss, putting the officer in danger, and if you miss, someone else could get hit.

If you're pulling your gun you have already made the decision lethal force may be required to protect yourself or others from serious harm. Things move so fast there's no time to try to be a hero by hitting someone in the leg or foot thereby saving the assailant's life.

Perhaps a real cop could chime in as to what their training is on this point.