I'm not opposed to the Flames signing Russell to a 1-year deal for cheap. It still give a young guy a chance to beat out Engelland now or Wideman at the deadline. The most realistic players are Wotherspoon and Kulak. I think Kylington, Andersson, and Hickey need more seasoning.
Russell also adds depth if the Flames make the playoffs.
Giordano - Brodie
Jokipakka - Hamilton
Russell - Wideman
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That's pretty awesome. All of these guys can move around the lineup.
I love how Treliving does not manage with sentimentality as one of his operating principles.
Kris Russell, while a warrior and a legit bright spot for the franchise during a tumultuous period, was never-the-less a mediocre player and not a part of the plans for the franchise.
We should be replacing players like him, not bringing them back.
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Not sure if it was said on this forum or elsewhere (apologies to the poster here if thats the case) but it was pointed out that the Flames are unlikely to be signing anyone until Gaudreau's deal gets done. So unless that is announced in the next 48 hours I doubt Russell finds his way back here. Thats in addition to the very accurate statements about Treliving just made.
The Glencross thing is probably what caused the whole mess to begin with.
Glencross made some pretty big statements that he regretted taking a home town discount with the Flames on his last contract.
If anything that probably caused Russell to try and get a bigger contract this time around and not sign with the Flames for a "discount".
Think the mistake they made was thinking that Russell's market value was closer to that of Glencross when he re-signed with the Flames with a discount vs. the value Glencross had when he was forced to retire.
Yep, I think you're bang on.
Rather than feel like he did ok playing close to home and earning 10 million bucks, Glencross probably felt shortchanged by his contract. Based on his final couple of years here I don't think it's a stretch to say he probably had an over inflated view of his skills and where he stood on the team and in the league considering prior to landing in Calgary he had bounced around the league.
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Rather than feel like he did ok playing close to home and earning 10 million bucks, Glencross probably felt shortchanged by his contract. Based on his final couple of years here I don't think it's a stretch to say he probably had an over inflated view of his skills and where he stood on the team and in the league considering prior to landing in Calgary he had bounced around the league.
And was flushed out of Edmonton by vague dreams of Marian Hossa. Or was it Jagr that time?
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Rather than feel like he did ok playing close to home and earning 10 million bucks, Glencross probably felt shortchanged by his contract. Based on his final couple of years here I don't think it's a stretch to say he probably had an over inflated view of his skills and where he stood on the team and in the league considering prior to landing in Calgary he had bounced around the league.
Kind of funny isn't it. He couldn't click in Columbus or Edmonton, found some success playing here with All Star / HoF caliber linemates and then decided he was worth more because of it.
And was flushed out of Edmonton by vague dreams of Marian Hossa. Or was it Jagr that time?
It was Hossa. Lowe put off making an offer to Glencross so they could focus on getting Hossa signed only to have Sutter swoop in on Glencross and Hossa to sign in Detroit.
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In Glencross' first year, he scored 40 points playing on the third line playing with old Conroy and Moss. Glencross was definitely skilled.
But yeah, in his best year he was on a line with Jokinen and Iginla. He wasn't as good as he thought, for sure. But he was no slouch, until the very end.
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Kind of funny isn't it. He couldn't click in Columbus or Edmonton, found some success playing here with All Star / HoF caliber linemates and then decided he was worth more because of it.
Couldn't click in Anaheim either.
Says something I think when you have played for 5 teams in your NHL career and only found success with 1 of them. Russell is on the same trajectory.
Couldn't stick in St. Louis or Columbus, has some success in Calgary, leaves for greener pastures and has a lacklustre showing for his new team in the playoffs.
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It was Hossa. Lowe put off making an offer to Glencross so they could focus on getting Hossa signed only to have Sutter swoop in on Glencross and Hossa to sign in Detroit.
Yep. Good times. Wasn't that when Lowe declared he was open for business and he was gong big game hunting?
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In Glencross' first year, he scored 40 points playing on the third line playing with old Conroy and Moss. Glencross was definitely skilled.
But yeah, in his best year he was on a line with Jokinen and Iginla. He wasn't as good as he thought, for sure. But he was no slouch, until the very end.
it's not like he lead the team in goals in a season or anything.....
I don't get the Glencross grief. He was a guy who was strong value for his contract, but didn't get re-signed in the offseason to what he wanted. off the ice he used his celebrity to make other people's lives better. Off ice he'd be in the top 5 all time Flames for charity in the community.
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I don't get the Glencross grief. He was a guy who was strong value for his contract, but didn't get re-signed in the offseason to what he wanted. off the ice he used his celebrity to make other people's lives better. Off ice he'd be in the top 5 all time Flames for charity in the community.
In a lock-out shortened season, where Lee Stempniak led us in points...
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In a lock-out shortened season, where Lee Stempniak led us in points...
on a team that had Cammalerri, Hudler and Tanguay as well. And Iginla until he was traded.
And he did it in less games than Cammalerri and Hudler (same # as Tanguay). Iginla played 9 less games and scored 6 less goals, so he was outscoring Iginla while Iginla was on the team that season as well.
It doesn't change the fact that he did it. Whether it was on a good team or a poor team, he was the leader.
What your post does prove is that it doesn't matter what Glencross did, too many people on CP will find a way to disregard any accomplishment to fit their own narrative about his accomplishments as a Flame.
You're completely out of line with it.
Critique what he did afterwards, critique how he and his agent played his contract situation, but as a Flame he was a guy who produced while being paid 3rd line money.
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Pinder mentioned it is pretty much a done deal he will sign with the Flames
So if this is true, why wouldn't Calgary sign him to a PTO so he can attend training camp while they're waiting for whatever needs to happen to make this official?
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