Friedman: Gaudreau negotiations will be put on hold during World Cup

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Treliving is a ****ing moron if he thinks he can get Johnny at 6.5 for term... Remember when it was Johnny's fault for the hold out because Calgary paid Monahan and therefore have already offered Johnny good money? Maybe I wasn't wrong after all?

He's our best player. Face of the franchise. Why would you insult him with low ball offers? If you don't want to pay him what he's worth, trade him to somebody who will. This is starting to get embarrassing.

Jesus, just stop already, we get it.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Oh? Do you know reporters that are right 100% of the time?

Nope. Not sure what that has to do with the discussion though.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

6.5 isn't a lowball at all. It's where a negotiator should start.

It's a low ball if that's where they are stopping, which is where we are currently at according to Francis.

[LanceUppercut]

I'll point out that the mid points between 6.5 and 8 is... 7.25. You get him for 7.25 on an 8 year term, that's pretty much dead on value wise. It will all come down to term, and I would suspect the agent isn't budging much off his ask at the moment.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Nope. Not sure what that has to do with the discussion though.

Well you kind of brought it up. So basically you never believe what any reporter says ever? Sometimes they're right sometimes they're wrong?

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Treliving is a ****ing moron if he thinks he can get Johnny at 6.5 for term... Remember when it was Johnny's fault for the hold out because Calgary paid Monahan and therefore have already offered Johnny good money? Maybe I wasn't wrong after all?

He's our best player. Face of the franchise. Why would you insult him with low ball offers? If you don't want to pay him what he's worth, trade him to somebody who will. This is starting to get embarrassing.

Wow man. Pump the brakes.
What proof do you have of low ball offers?
Seriously. What proof?

There is a huge disconnect between what is being reported and how you spin it. So back up your perspective with something tangible.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I think your post is kind of embarrassing. According to you the Flames should roll over for all their RFA's and give them UFA paydays. Sorry but it doesn't work that way at all.

If you were going to give him a UFA payday, he'd be looking at 9M+. 7.5-8 is in line with comps. 6.5 is an insult.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

If you were going to give him a UFA payday, he'd be looking at 9M+. 7.5-8 is in line with comps. 6.5 is an insult.

EDIT: Never mind.

[Frequitude]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

It's a low ball if that's where they are stopping, which is where we are currently at according to Francis.

And on the flip side it's dumb of Johnny's agent if they're stopping at $8M+. Both are holding at equally untenable positions. Come on, take the one sided blinders off.

And the end result probably lies somewhere in the middle. Sounds like a negotiation.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Wow man. Pump the brakes.
What proof do you have of low ball offers?
Seriously. What proof?

There is a huge disconnect between what is being reported and how you spin it. So back up your perspective with something tangible.

I'm going off of the Francis article, obviously. He's been pretty in tune with signings. Millions also mentioned the Gio cap. It's enough to make me believe it's really a thing.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by Frequitude

And on the flip side it's dumb of Johnny's agent if they're stopping at $8M+. Both are holding at equally untenable positions. Come on, take the one sided blinders off.

And the end result probably lies somewhere in the middle. Sounds like a negotiation.

8M is closer to his inflation adjusted market comps than 6.5

[Street Pharmacist]

Remember when Giordano was asking for 8+?

[Frequitude]

We should probably all thank Tranny's post so it stands out amongst our bickering for those scrolling for actual news...

[Mr.Coffee]

Are you Johnny Gaudreau?

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

6.5 isn't a lowball at all. It's where a negotiator should start.

Yeah, but it's past the first week of September and training camps are about to start. The negotiators should've long since started already.

[Matty81]

I'm actually curious. Who is a comparable player who got 8 mil a year for a long term contract with 5 RFA years? Tarasenko got 7.5 and he only had 4 RFA years.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Are you Johnny Gaudreau?

Honestly, if he isn't involved with Lewis Gross or his agency I would pretty nervous. The obsession and one-sidedness he's shown towards Gaudreau is downright creepy.

[jemjey]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

This is starting to get embarrassing.

Probably the only thing you've said that I can agree with.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Matty81

I'm actually curious. Who is a comparable player who got 8 mil a year for a long term contract with 5 RFA years? Tarasenko got 7.5 and he only had 4 RFA years.

Man, that's really specific. Hold on a moment.

Edit: Evgeni Malkin, back in 2009, signed a five-year deal at age 22 -- heading into his age 23 season, same as Gaudreau -- which took up 5 RFA years. Malkin was obviously better than Gaudreau for their respective ages -- Geno was coming off a 112-point season, and was more proven (Stanley Cup, Art Ross, Conn Smythe, etc...) -- but it's the closest non-Tarasenko deal I can find for your exact criteria. Was for $8.7 million a season under a $58.6 million cap.

[hockey.modern]

This is going to be fun to read again when Johnny signs and we praise Brad for yet another steal contract.