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View Poll Results: Assuming a term of 7 years what will Gaudreau's AAV end up being?
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6.500 - 6.625
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9 |
1.28% |
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6.625 - 6.750
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5 |
0.71% |
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6.750 - 6.875
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21 |
2.99% |
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6.875 - 7.000
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59 |
8.40% |
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7.000 - 7.125
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89 |
12.68% |
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7.125 - 7.250
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85 |
12.11% |
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7.250 - 7.375
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112 |
15.95% |
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7.375 - 7.500
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102 |
14.53% |
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7.500 - 7.625
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71 |
10.11% |
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7.625 - 7.750
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38 |
5.41% |
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7.750 - 7.875
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39 |
5.56% |
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7.875 - 8.000
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33 |
4.70% |
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8.000 - 8.125
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21 |
2.99% |
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8.125 - 8.250
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6 |
0.85% |
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8.250 - 8.375
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0.14% |
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8.375 - 8.500
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11 |
1.57% |
09-01-2016, 09:03 AM
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#341
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Lifetime Suspension
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Something isnt right. I suspect BT is starting to hear the ohine ring from ither GMs. I get the feeling things are heating up.
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09-01-2016, 09:06 AM
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#342
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taco.vidal
Something isnt right. I suspect BT is starting to hear the ohine ring from ither GMs. I get the feeling things are heating up.
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Once again, to quote Aaron Rodgers
R-E-L-A-X
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09-01-2016, 09:06 AM
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#343
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Could Care Less
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Friedman: Gaudreau negotiations will be put on hold during World Cup
What is ^ your deal honestly?
Edit: to Taco
Last edited by heep223; 09-01-2016 at 09:25 AM.
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09-01-2016, 09:07 AM
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#344
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heep223
What is ^ your deal honestly?
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Pretty sure you don't mean me, but I'll answer anyway.
I like quoting Aaron Rodgers.
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09-01-2016, 09:07 AM
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#345
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taco.vidal
Something isnt right. I suspect BT is starting to hear the ohine ring from ither GMs. I get the feeling things are heating up.
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What would the other GMs be saying?
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09-01-2016, 09:14 AM
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#346
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Actually starting to get a little concerned about this one TBH.
Heard from a couple of reputable sources from close to the team that they wouldn't be surprised if they made it to the start of the season and Gaudreau still didn't have a contract.
Sounds like Gaudreau wants to get PAID on a long term deal.
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09-01-2016, 09:19 AM
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#347
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Actually starting to get a little concerned about this one TBH.
Heard from a couple of reputable sources from close to the team that they wouldn't be surprised if they made it to the start of the season and Gaudreau still didn't have a contract.
Sounds like Gaudreau wants to get PAID on a long term deal.
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I think the most he should be aiming for is 8x8 which is pretty fair for him and risky (IMO worth it for the Flames).
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09-01-2016, 09:59 AM
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#348
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Actually starting to get a little concerned about this one TBH.
Heard from a couple of reputable sources from close to the team that they wouldn't be surprised if they made it to the start of the season and Gaudreau still didn't have a contract.
Sounds like Gaudreau wants to get PAID on a long term deal.
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There are still 3 days left, to get this thing hammered out, I just hope that the representatives from the Flames and Johnny's side, spend at least 6 hours a day for the next 3 days negotiating.
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09-01-2016, 10:10 AM
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#349
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In the Sin Bin
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I hope Brad doesn't play too hardball with our best player, but I feel like if they were close it'd be done by now.
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09-01-2016, 10:17 AM
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#350
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
What would the other GMs be saying?
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"Hey Brad, I heard that taco.vidal said Gaudreau is available"
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09-01-2016, 10:21 AM
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#351
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Franchise Player
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curious when this negotiations started this offseason. As an RFA, there are only a few levers i would imagine ($, salary vs bonus, term, no trade/movement clause, anything else??).
Given the limited number of parameters to negotiate on, curious how far apart they are now, and why it's taking so long given the limited alternatives to getting a deal done.
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09-01-2016, 10:31 AM
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#352
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Franchise Player
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When the announce it, it'll feel like Christmas morning.
And if it's a good contract, it'll feel like you got a new PS4.
If it's too rich, it'll feel like you got socks.
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09-01-2016, 10:38 AM
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#353
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
When the announce it, it'll feel like Christmas morning.
And if it's a good contract, it'll feel like you got a new PS4.
If it's too rich, it'll feel like you got socks.
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Maybe it WILL be Christmas morning. 
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09-01-2016, 10:45 AM
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#354
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Demaeon
Maybe it WILL be Christmas morning.  |
Maybe the little baby Jesus can help us out here.
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09-01-2016, 11:08 AM
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#355
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Self-Retired
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
curious when this negotiations started this offseason. As an RFA, there are only a few levers i would imagine ($, salary vs bonus, term, no trade/movement clause, anything else??).
Given the limited number of parameters to negotiate on, curious how far apart they are now, and why it's taking so long given the limited alternatives to getting a deal done.
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Agreed. It can't be all that far apart in terms of $$$. This has to be about term.
I get they are relative, term and $$.
That said, if Johnny is looking to only have a deal that brings him to UFA... He's gonna get less money.. But control his future there after.
If he is willing to go the full 8 years, in 4 years the $$ being dished out by that time to players of his caliber is around $9m/... (Hypothetical)
Perhaps he wants those $$$ now and throughout his entire deal to account for inflation of salaries down the road.
Perhaps Brad and Co. Only want to pay market value now, but have the current market value extend for 8 years. That is not realistic in my opinion.
I would love to see the Flames work a deal that goes
6.75
6.75
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7.75
7.75
7.75
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$63m with a AAv of $7.68m
However another point of contention could be that a few million off each year is bonus driven, where Johnny may not want any of those $$$ dependant on bonuses such as games played/yr? In case he does take that brutal hit that many are expecting to happen one day... And management wants to hedge their bets?
To me, this seems like the sticking point. And if so, how does management and agent work towards a middle ground?
there isn't much of a middle ground from my view.
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09-01-2016, 11:10 AM
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#356
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Franchise Player
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I thought bonus's after the ELC can't be dependent on things like games played or points. They are just bonus's?
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09-01-2016, 11:23 AM
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#357
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Weitz
I thought bonus's after the ELC can't be dependent on things like games played or points. They are just bonus's?
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That is correct. The only bonuses allowed on a contract after an ELC are signing bonuses, and they aren't conditional upon anything. Signing bonuses just change when the money is paid.
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09-01-2016, 11:26 AM
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#358
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taco.vidal
Something isnt right. I suspect BT is starting to hear the ohine ring from ither GMs. I get the feeling things are heating up.
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Well as long as you are getting a feeling, I'll go get my tin foil hat.
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09-01-2016, 11:27 AM
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#359
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
That is correct. The only bonuses allowed on a contract after an ELC are signing bonuses, and they aren't conditional upon anything. Signing bonuses just change when the money is paid.
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Wasn't Iginla's contract with Boston nothing but bonuses?
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09-01-2016, 11:28 AM
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#360
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
That is correct. The only bonuses allowed on a contract after an ELC are signing bonuses, and they aren't conditional upon anything. Signing bonuses just change when the money is paid.
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Getting money at the beginning of the year also protects you in case of a lockout. It is more difficult to buyout as you get all the bonus money and I also think it is not subject to escrow claw backs. Oh, and if you get suspended it's less money you lose if most of your money is in bonuses.
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