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Jiggy_12 · 10-04-2006, 03:24 PM

I just made a rather large trade in my NFL.com fantasy league.

I sent Rudi Johnson, Greg Jennings, and Alex Smith away for Mike Vick, Chad Johnson, and Frank Gore.

If someone offered me that trade at the start of the season I would have thought they were crazy to give up that much. Did I get as much of a steal as I think I did?

I hate trading Rudi Johnson, but how could I pass this up? btw, it leaves me with Gore and Ronnie Brown as my 2 starting RB's, with Ahman Green on my bench. And Fitzgerald, Roy Williams, and Chad Johnson as my 3 WR's that will rotate through 2 spots. My starting QB was Favre.

Bring_Back_Shantz · 10-04-2006, 03:54 PM

I like to pick up Vick in fantasy drafts just so I can trade him to peole who think he is a good quarterback.

Without knowing the scoring in your system I think you may have just got hosed. Espically since Johnson isn't tearing it up like he should be.

Displaced Flames fan · 10-04-2006, 03:55 PM

I think you got hosed personally!

Chad Johnson is an upgrade on Jennings, but Jennings is going to put up some numbers with GB theoretically behind a lot the rest of the season. Rudi Johnson>>Frank Gore and in fantasy football I think Alex Smith and Vick are even. Vick is not a good fantasy QB.

Displaced Flames fan · 10-04-2006, 03:56 PM

You do have a fine set of recievers. You said Favre was your starter...he's STILL your starter.

Jiggy_12 · 10-04-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

You do have a fine set of recievers. You said Favre was your starter...he's STILL your starter.

lol, yeah...he will be for now.

I needed some insurance in case he decides to retire

I did downgrade at RB, but I think I increased my depth at WR and QB. My team should be a playoff team with the division I'm in...so hopefully this depth pays off.

Chad Johnson's stock is at a low point now, and to get him for Jennings who I just picked up off waivers I think is an huge ugrade.

Thanks for the input. Its just my 2nd season of following the NFL so I am nothing close to an expert.

FLAMESRULE · 10-04-2006, 04:05 PM

Speaking of fantasy football I just made this trade

I traded away Plaxico Burress + Deuce McAllister+Dallas Clark for Mike Furrey+Lamont Jordan+Alge Crumpler

Thoughts on this trade??

IMO Burress > Furrey, although Detroit will be behind alot more than the GMen. Jordan >> Not sharing carries, is a stud and can catch out of the backfield. Crumpler > Clark, Vicks suspect arm doesnt let him through the ball too far.

Displaced Flames fan · 10-04-2006, 04:06 PM

Jennings on waivers to Johnson is good value for sure. Like you said, you have great depth at WR now. Jennings will be productive all season, but Johnson is more likely to end up in the end zone.

Gore is capable of big numbers, but they aren't going to let him keep fumbling. He's done it every game so far and he's on a short leash. Rudi is probably one of the top 2 or 3 fantasy backs right now, so I think you took a big hit there.

If you only start one QB the trade off from Smith to Vick isn't even worth discussing. If you started 2 QB's as some leagues do I would be concerned.

Fantasy football is a blast though isn't it?

Jiggy_12 · 10-04-2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

Speaking of fantasy football I just made this trade

Plaxico Burress + Deuce McAllister+Dallas Clark for Mike Furrey+Lamont Jordan+Alge Crumpler

Thoughts on this trade??

IMO Burress > Furrey, although Detroit will be behind alot more than the GMen. Jordan >> Not sharing carries, is a stud and can catch out of the backfield. Crumpler > Clark, Vicks suspect arm doesnt let him through the ball too far.

Which side of the trade are you on?

Burress is awesome. The go-to guy in New York and Eli as his QB, whoever got Burres won this trade. Plus, Deuce is having a much better than projected season with Reggie Bush struggling a tad.

Lamont Jordan should have a good game this week facing a terrible defense, but OAK can't put up ANY offense against a real team. Crumpler is an upgrade on Clark.

Jiggy_12 · 10-04-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Jennings on waivers to Johnson is good value for sure. Like you said, you have great depth at WR now. Jennings will be productive all season, but Johnson is more likely to end up in the end zone.

Gore is capable of big numbers, but they aren't going to let him keep fumbling. He's done it every game so far and he's on a short leash. Rudi is probably one of the top 2 or 3 fantasy backs right now, so I think you took a big hit there.

If you only start one QB the trade off from Smith to Vick isn't even worth discussing. If you started 2 QB's as some leagues do I would be concerned.

Fantasy football is a blast though isn't it?

Fantasy football rocks, and is the lone reason I started watching the NFL.

Yeah, I only start one QB per week. Vick has actually put up decent fantasy numbers in my league so far, so I wouldn't be afraid to start him if Favre has a tough match-up.

It's the Johnson - Gore thing that scares me. Rudi Johnson is 2nd ONLY to Brian Westbrook for fantasy points...with Gore ranked 6th and falling fast. If Gore can't turn it around, or at least level out...it could be a long season. The plus side is...I have wealth at WR to make another trade for a RB if need be.

FLAMESRULE · 10-04-2006, 04:19 PM

Thanks Jiggy, I changed the post.

I traded away Burress. He was ok in the first 2 games this year, and then was just horrible against Seattle. LG was very good against Cle, and has a very easy schedule the rest of the year. He is a great WR though, no doubt about that. Hopefully Furrey can maintain his pace throughout the year. Now I just need Mason to pick his **** up and start scoring for Bmore.

Bush is starting to show his inexperience, but he is way too gifted to not get 15 touches a game. He is a game breaker. Plus with Deuce's injuries, I was very willing to make that trade. Jordan should be a good compliment to Dunn and Dillon (my other RB's).

Crumpler is way better than Clark. Indy just has too many weapons for him to be worth alot.

FLAMESRULE · 10-04-2006, 04:22 PM

Just FYI here is my team

1 QB - Brady + Frye
2 RB - Jordan, Dunn, Dillon, Barber III
2 WR - Mason, Furrey, Gabriel
1 TE - Crumpler, Wiggins
1 K - Kaeding
1 Def - St. Louis + TBay

Bobblehead · 10-04-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

Speaking of fantasy football I just made this trade

I traded away Plaxico Burress + Deuce McAllister+Dallas Clark for Mike Furrey+Lamont Jordan+Alge Crumpler

Thoughts on this trade??

IMO Burress > Furrey, although Detroit will be behind alot more than the GMen. Jordan >> Not sharing carries, is a stud and can catch out of the backfield. Crumpler > Clark, Vicks suspect arm doesnt let him through the ball too far.

I think you lost. You traded a clear #1 WR for a guy who played DB last year. I know he has done well lately, but not well enough to come close to Burress. Duece is a worry because he will split carries with Bush, but Oakland is BAD. They have a poor O-Line, and will be coming from behind a lot of the season. Clark or Crumpler is a wash. I like getting the ball from Peyton, but Algae is Vick's safety blanket, so it is a pick'em.

Bobblehead · 10-04-2006, 10:54 PM

I'm in the midst of a controversy in one of my leagues (I'm in 3).

We play 3 men on D. I've had 5, but now with a solid core I can let one go. I got a guy to trade C. Henry for him. The commissioner of the league vetoed the trade. I was ****ed - I don't think there should be a veto unless there is collusion (there wasn't). The ruling was that it wasn't a fair trade becaue Henry has such good potential and there are similar D players still on the waiver wire. I'm not sure I will play in this league next year (even though I have been in it for 8 years and am current defending champ).
But I did argue and got the trade reinstated.

Jiggy_12 · 10-11-2006, 01:30 PM

Another question...I am shopping around Ronnie Brown.

If you could trade Ronnie Brown for Willis McGahee or Deuce McAllister, who would you choose? Or would you hang onto Ronnie Brown in hopes Miami can get their act together?

FurnaceFace · 10-11-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

Just FYI here is my team

1 QB - Brady + Frye
2 RB - Jordan, Dunn, Dillon, Barber III
2 WR - Mason, Furrey, Gabriel
1 TE - Crumpler, Wiggins
1 K - Kaeding
1 Def - St. Louis + TBay

WHy are you holding 2 TEs when you could drop one and grab another WR who would be more helpful to you. TE, K, and defensive players are not worth burning a bench spot for in my mind. I'd also question holding two DEF...especially those two. There must be something better on the wire no?

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Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

Another question...I am shopping around Ronnie Brown.

If you could trade Ronnie Brown for Willis McGahee or Deuce McAllister, who would you choose? Or would you hang onto Ronnie Brown in hopes Miami can get their act together?

I'd keep him, but I'm biased as I have him in a league. I don't think Buffalo is going to be playing with any leads this year so running is not going to be their focus and Deuce while doing well right now will give up some carries to Bush and is always brittle. I think Miami will get better, can't get much worse so no point selling him at a low point.

Jiggy_12 · 10-13-2006, 12:18 PM

Someone has now offered me a trade...its hard to resist.

They are offering Andre Johnson, Julius Jones, and Isaac Bruce for Chad Johnson, Ronnie Brown, and Larry Fitzgerald.

Do I accept?

FurnaceFace · 10-13-2006, 01:29 PM

^^^
This is a buy low, sell high scenario however I think he's the one following that philosophy. Chad and Brown are both really low for where I'd expect them to end up this season. Andre isn't a huge upgrade, Bruce is old and could fall apart and lose looks to Holt and Curtis, Jones is one poor outing away from giving up carries to Barber as Parcells seems to have a thing for him.

If I was the one offering you the trade I'd be really hoping you'd accept.

Jiggy_12 · 10-13-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FurnaceFace

^^^
This is a buy low, sell high scenario however I think he's the one following that philosophy. Chad and Brown are both really low for where I'd expect them to end up this season. Andre isn't a huge upgrade, Bruce is old and could fall apart and lose looks to Holt and Curtis, Jones is one poor outing away from giving up carries to Barber as Parcells seems to have a thing for him.

If I was the one offering you the trade I'd be really hoping you'd accept.

Well, I sent him a counter off and put Javon Walker in the place of Isaac Bruce. He rejected it. Doesn't look like its going to happen, but the more I think about it the more I'm okay with that.

When Fitzgerald comes back I'll be happy I didnt trade him.

Bring_Back_Shantz · 10-13-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

Another question...I am shopping around Ronnie Brown.

If you could trade Ronnie Brown for Willis McGahee or Deuce McAllister, who would you choose? Or would you hang onto Ronnie Brown in hopes Miami can get their act together?

Get Willis!

FurnaceFace · 10-13-2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

Well, I sent him a counter off and put Javon Walker in the place of Isaac Bruce. He rejected it. Doesn't look like its going to happen, but the more I think about it the more I'm okay with that.

When Fitzgerald comes back I'll be happy I didnt trade him.

Sounds like a guy in one of the groups I play in. No matter what the sport is he's always coming up with trades that are clearly in his best interest. I've yet to see him offer up a fair trade. I had posted something about being interested in in trading Thomas Jones for a WR and he offers me Kennison. Yeah, okay, I'll dump a good RB for a WR who has nobody to pass the ball to him. Excellent.