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Old 08-23-2016, 11:19 AM   #121
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I still burn playlists for my friends onto CD's although a lot less often than I did 2-3 years ago. Dropbox and Spotify are really pushing CD's out of existence. Unless you car is pre-2007 and doesn't at least have an AUX input, there's no real reason for them to exist since you can now easily share and compile music, legally for cheap.

They're also freaking expensive for how useless they are.
For all that money you spend on MP3's you don't have a physical copy of what you paid for. God forbid your computer or Itunes account crashes and you lose all your music. Then what?

If you're comparing buying individual songs as opposed to a CD then yeah it is expensive. However I enjoy listening to the hidden gems that don't always mave the airwaves. Then there's the fact you can buy used CD's for next to nothing from Value Village.
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Ya, still buy CD's and rip them to the quality I prefer.
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Dusk til dawn. Rusty playgrounds built in 1963. Trying to figure out what was going on in the other screens. The smell of pot. People walking to the bathroom in their pajamas with a flashlight. Good times.

Don't miss the mosquitos when they still had the old hanging speakers, though.
Walking to the concession building and passing cars with steamed up windows
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For all that money you spend on MP3's you don't have a physical copy of what you paid for. God forbid your computer or Itunes account crashes and you lose all your music. Then what?
Kick yourself for not regularly backing up your stuff.
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What kind of music do you listen to?
Classic rock, modern rock and just about anything else that isn't Rap/Hiphop
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For all that money you spend on MP3's you don't have a physical copy of what you paid for. God forbid your computer or Itunes account crashes and you lose all your music. Then what?

If you're comparing buying individual songs as opposed to a CD then yeah it is expensive. However I enjoy listening to the hidden gems that don't always mave the airwaves. Then there's the fact you can buy used CD's for next to nothing from Value Village.
My music is stored on my IPod and on my external hard drive so it's backed up twice, one is stored in my car and one at home.

Spotify is far cheaper (10 bucks a month, so an equivalent of 6-10 songs a month off iTunes) and lets you discover those hidden gems since you can pick any station (So by genre or some artists have their own stations where they play their stuff and stuff they like) and then download the songs for offline listening. I don't have it yet but I'm pretty sure you can make playlists too.

Spotify is the future, without a doubt. It'll render my iPod extinct too.

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Only if you're always connected and have the data available. Exclusives with one streaming service, some artists refusing to allow their catalog to stream, preferred services going under (Rdio), digital rights management issues limiting/removing your ability to listen, out of print releases not available....

Streaming does a lot of things really, really well but it is far from perfect.
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Old 08-23-2016, 11:42 AM   #128
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Only if you're always connected and have the data available. Exclusives with one streaming service, some artists refusing to allow their catalog to stream, preferred services going under (Rdio), digital rights management issues limiting/removing your ability to listen, out of print releases not available....

Streaming does a lot of things really, really well but it is far from perfect.
You only need data to stream. You can listen to what you saved for offline listening whenever you want. Just like an iPod.

Yeah Access issues will always be a thing but I guarantee you that you're more likely to find a song on Spotify than a physical copy.

Ideally you need to find a way to rip your Spotify library and then upload it into your iTunes and then you can merge whatever you find on Spotify with any hard to get tracks from "other" sources.

This is why I still haven't got it yet. I listen to a lot of music from small time artists and bootleg remixes that won't be on any service. Most of the music I download I can download for free directly from the artists soundcloud since they're still getting their name out. Then they blow up like the Chainsmokers and all of the sudden you can't find their stuff anywhere....

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Old 08-23-2016, 11:46 AM   #129
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That's part of it but also getting a new album and listening to it from beginning to end and finding hidden jewels in the album that may not have got picked up as singles. Now people for the most part only buy the singles (I am guilty also) and we are probably missing out on some really good songs on albums that simply aren't getting overlooked.
I agree.

But on the flip side, a lot of bands would only have a few good songs and would put filler crap on the rest of the CD and charge $20 for it. Now that people can just buy (or rip) singles, musicians can't get away with it. Some would also know that they could float an album with one hit, and then save the next hit for a different album.

It has also brought back the need for bands to make money from being good live instead of from album sales.
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Every God damned e-security policy change at work. Every single one. They consistently make my life more of a hassle and slow down my work and do absolutely nothing to actually increase security, because in order to minimize the additional hassle everyone does what they can to circumvent the clumsy security.
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Old 08-23-2016, 12:05 PM   #131
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Every God damned e-security policy change at work. Every single one. They consistently make my life more of a hassle and slow down my work and do absolutely nothing to actually increase security, because in order to minimize the additional hassle everyone does what they can to circumvent the clumsy security.
omg password requirement changes are the worst. Especially since most of them are useless.

Longer passwords are a lot more effective than forcing me to have one cap, one small letter, one number and one special character. Just ridiculous. Then you make me come up with another one that has to be a certain amount different than the old? Are you joking?

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013...n-length-ones/
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Only if you're always connected and have the data available. Exclusives with one streaming service, some artists refusing to allow their catalog to stream, preferred services going under (Rdio), digital rights management issues limiting/removing your ability to listen, out of print releases not available....

Streaming does a lot of things really, really well but it is far from perfect.
Apple Music takes a lot of heat – and I get why – but they've solved almost all these problems.

Download your music when you have wifi, and anything that's not available to stream can just be uploaded to their cloud from your computer and accessed all the same. They did have issues with uploading songs getting tagged incorrectly, but they've recently made big strides in fixing that.
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Modern cars are designed to basically self destruct to keep as many of the forces away from the occupants. That's a good thing. Who gives a fata if your car only has a dented bumper if you're cruising around in a neck brace for six months. I'd rather walk away uninjured and pay a deductible than have an unnecessary injury.
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I owned a 59 Chev, probably the worst car I've ever owned. It floated all over the highway like a big boat.

and yeah generally speaking the newer cars are much better both in safety and reliability.
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Apple Music takes a lot of heat – and I get why – but they've solved almost all these problems.

Download your music when you have wifi, and anything that's not available to stream can just be uploaded to their cloud from your computer and accessed all the same. They did have issues with uploading songs getting tagged incorrectly, but they've recently made big strides in fixing that.
You still need to purchase the original recordings you want in some form, whether due to obscurity, unknown band or whatever.

Additionally it is another month over month subscription service (Google music has a similar service). I'm torn between whether competition is good or it would be nice to have everything on one service.

And most damning of all - iTunes was spawned by Satan.
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I've been running Spotify for around a year now and I love it. I have yet to come across a song I can't find, and it's great for making playlists full of songs I wouldn't normally purchase (ie: 80's mixes or casual mood music). Great for finding new music as well, there are some really cool stations full of "indy" music to scroll through.

I download all my music to my device so I can listen offline, no worries there. When I get sick of my playlists I just delete them and start over. I'd recommend it to anyone that loves music.
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For all that money you spend on MP3's you don't have a physical copy of what you paid for. God forbid your computer or Itunes account crashes and you lose all your music. Then what?
You sign into iTunes and it allows you to download all of your purchases again.
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Be honest, who actually reads or re-reads album liner notes? I have boxes upon boxes of old CDs/tapes/records which I never feel like looking at. It's just more junk, which we all already have too much of. I mostly download all my music and literature now.
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Be honest, who actually reads or re-reads album liner notes? I have boxes upon boxes of old CDs/tapes/records which I never feel like looking at. It's just more junk, which we all already have too much of. I mostly download all my music and literature now.
I used to get a kick out of reading them and seeing all those rebellious rockers thanking mommy and daddy.
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Yeah, it's more of a software issue (same thing with computers). The devices themselves will last a long time if looked after.

I hate it when music and movie formats change. Like really, isn't DVD good enough? Before BluRay came out, did anyone watch a movie on DVD and think it wasn't good enough.

Same thing with music. We have gone through so many format changes, and now look at all the people going back to vinyl. Sometimes it was change just for the sake of change.
I'm not giving up on CDs or BluRay.
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