Changes you hate to see

[jayswin]

CFL: I hate seeing a once booming, popular (by Canadian standards) league start to crumble and completely and utterly fail to attract young fans, which will likely unfortunately lead to a drop off a cliff sometime in the next ten years.

No one under 25 talks about the CFL, and that's on the league. It's a number of reasons including shotty reffing and a mandate to make more calls a few years ago which has led to the league's advantage over the NFL (speedier plays/games) evaporating.

But the Stamps specifically have been really annoying with Flames ownership treating the games like a total business. And I know I'll get the old business break down from someone "You know, jayswin, it may seem bad to have so many empty seats, but selling 25k tickets at X is actually better business than selling 32k tickets at Y".

Great, except this isn't a premier product, it's really great football for Canadians that needs to be accessible AND enticing, as we're a hockey country. You put up ads that say "OMG, get in the building for only $34.95!!!!" and the casual fans are saying "Yeah, no, not paying $35 to sit on steel bleachers in the upper corners".

[jayswin]

Like seriously, our cheap seats are $35 and the seats one section over from the cheap seats but still at the very top of the stadium are $51.95!!

And promotions don't count, because fans tend to see the promotions, non fans/families will mostly just look on ticketmaster and go "wow, yeah, no".

[jayswin]

Also, Hockey Night in Canada: I know some people laugh at the hokey nature of the broadcasts, but I loved the old presentation.

The guy that did the montages, mixed with their "movie" style intros to games that made you truly feel like you were part of the game were second to none.

Rogers taking over already pissed me off, but I think I could have been swayed if they put out a stellar product. Instead they just wanted the rights, and as we found out had no intention of giving the fans a superior viewing experience.

Now they're cutting everyone and everything and making their horrible product even worse, and they're signed for years.

Hockey Night in Canada as produced by the CBC was so great growing up and it sucks to lose a Canadian tradition to a hair brained, desperate bid to take over all hockey in the country.

[jayswin]

The idea of the thread isn't limited to sports, btw, that was just where I went. The theme is anything from your youth (or younger you) that you loved that have become horrible, disappeared etc.

[Dion]

Taking out the red line in hockey was a mistake. It has increased the speed at which the game is played with the downside being more serious head injuries from hits. Players have less than a second to decide if their hit is going to result in a concussion for the oposition player

It was HOFer Ken Dryden who commented that if you hit someone at a greater speed (force = mass) that resulting hit is going to do more damage if it results in a hit to the head. In the past players coasted around the ice and used short bursts of speed when it was required. Hits to the head back then were less as players were not always in a position to make that hit.

“Players and coaches are incredibly creative because they’re competitive. One of the arguments you always get is from people saying they are hockey purists — they say ‘this is just the way the game is played. You can’t change it.’ You want to say to them, ‘if you knew your hockey history as much as you claim, you’d know it used to be seven-on-seven and no substitutions, and for the first 50 years of hockey, you couldn’t pass it forward, only backwards. This game is always changing, so the question is how do we meet the challenges? It’s much faster. How do we adapt?”

“In terms of sports, I think it’s head injuries. I think people will look back at us and say, ‘how could they not have known that, given the speed of collision and force of impact and frequency, there wouldn’t be consequences? If we don’t do significantly better at it, there will be significantly fewer kids playing and more adults feeling more of an impact from it.”

http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/04/22...ks-concussions

If the result has been collisions that are too dangerous, you “tweak” the rules, “tweak” the equipment, “tweak” the strategies of play, often in the face of great resistance — and the leagues have done this. But still, the careers and lives of their players are being compromised, and now everybody can see it.

http://grantland.com/features/time-nhl-get-head-smart/

[Vulcan]

Okay this is real old one. The demise of no draft windows in cars in the late 60s. They were great and supplied easily adjustable outside fresh air into your car. They also aided in keeping the windows defogged. It wasn't as great as air conditioning but once the no draft window was gone, air conditioning became more of a must need which filled the pockets of the manufacturers. Here's an example of what I'm talking about, a 1967 Firebird with the no draft window.




Here's a 1968 without the no draft window. The thing is the 68 is more valuable because it gives a cleaner line but without air conditioning it's not as practical.



I'd guess if you get into car changes, you can name quite a few changes that aren't for the better. I still prefer having the headlight dimmer on the floor where it's easy to operate and if it goes bad, it's easily replaced for $5 with a screw driver whereas now you're looking at replacing the turn signal apparatus as well at a dealer.

[AcGold]

Video games; games are no longer released as a single working product that is what was advertised. It's almost always DLC, seasons passes, map packs, microtransactions, massive patches, advertisements, simplified game mechanics that cater to the bottom denominator and rushed releases.

[nik-]

Remakes and sequels dominating the box office. The movie industry is risk averse to a detrimental level.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Okay this is real old one. The demise of no draft windows in cars in the late 60s. They were great and supplied easily adjustable outside fresh air into your car. They also aided in keeping the windows defogged. It wasn't as great as air conditioning but once the no draft window was gone, air conditioning became more of a must need which filled the pockets of the manufacturers. Here's an example of what I'm talking about, a 1967 Firebird with the no draft window.




Here's a 1968 without the no draft window. The thing is the 68 is more valuable because it gives a cleaner line but without air conditioning it's not as practical.



I'd guess if you get into car changes, you can name quite a few changes that aren't for the better. I still prefer having the headlight dimmer on the floor where it's easy to operate and if it goes bad, it's easily replaced for $5 with a screw driver whereas now you're looking at replacing the turn signal apparatus as well at a dealer.

Vehicles at one time also had fresh air vents where you could draw in cool air from outside to cool off your vehicle.

[Fuzz]

Yup, those foot vents were awesome in the summer. Just pull a handle, and instant cool feet(and blast the smell around the cabin!)

[Swift]

I miss video stores.

I want to watch Twin Peaks before it returns next year. My only legal option is to pay $120 to buy the box set, whereas previously I could just go to the video store to rent it.

I don't think the move to streaming was for the better. The selection of older movies/shows is much more limited.

[Finger Cookin]

Isn't Twin Peaks on crave? You could also buy both seasons in HD from iTunes for $60.

[You Need a Thneed]

The "intended" disposability of products manufactured today. Appliances, vehicles, etc designed to only last a few years.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

The "intended" disposability of products manufactured today. Appliances, vehicles, etc designed to only last a few years.

With the exception of furniture, is that even true? And even with furniture, it's a function of consumer demanding low price, not a grand conspiracy to make something last less time.

Honestly, what incentive does a company competing with many others have to make an inferior product?

And what appliances today last less than before?

[nik-]

Phones are a good example of it.

[Vulcan]

Brake rotors. A lot of them can no longer be turned and you need to buy new rotors.

[Dion]

The introduction of Netfilx, Crave and Shomi. Now you have to buy all these extra services to see shows that you won't find on digital cable. The cost of digital cable is high enough as it is without having to purchase these extra services.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

With the exception of furniture, is that even true? And even with furniture, it's a function of consumer demanding low price, not a grand conspiracy to make something last less time.

Honestly, what incentive does a company competing with many others have to make an inferior product?

And what appliances today last less than before?

Vehicles today have lot's of plastic as opposed to the crome bumpers of my first vehicle. They crack and break easy causing higher insurance costs and repairs. Today it doesn't take much of a collision to write off a vehicle.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Dion

Vehicles today have lot's of plastic as opposed to the crome bumpers of my first vehicle. They crack and break easy causing higher insurance costs and repairs. Today it doesn't take much of a collision to write off a vehicle.

They're on the road just as long without being rebuilt and the plastic is not done to make them break down faster.

There's no incentive for Chevrolet to make a truck break down faster. It's just not a thing. I keep hearing it, but it's such nonsense.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by nik-

Phones are a good example of it.

Phones last plenty long, it's just they can't keep up with rate of advance.