Who is the next Glencross/Hudler?

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Jarome Iginla could've done really well for himself if he'd just signed 1 year contracts for $1 million with Chicago, Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, but instead he chased the money to a terrible team in Colorado.

Ridiculous post. He did very well for himself and his family, he made an extra 13 million than he would have signing 1M contracts, he is at or near the end of his earning years. Trying to pick the cup winner is more difficult than you make it sound.

[iamca]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Sorry, I guess I meant to say they won their division.

Mistakes happen, but that year was an anomaly for Colorado and they were way over hyped locally. They had a terrible defensive year as they did last year. Give up 2000 shots a season and it doesn't matter who's in net, you will not sustain any success in the playoffs or as last year miss the playoffs. Tougher division last year, but not a well coached team with a poor defense.

This year they will benefit from Roy leaving, but shouldn't make the playoffs unless some major injuries cripple the Central division.

[Ashasx]

I fully understand that Colorado had an unsustainable year. That doesn't necessarily impact player opinions. Colorado still had a pretty good group of young and dynamic forwards. The team, while unlikely to put up 112 points again, was still poised for individual growth.

[Bourque's Twin]

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[Dion]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

No, he chased term. Which, depending on his motives, could have been a good or bad decision. If he wanted to win a Stanley Cup, bad decision. If he wanted to create stability for his family, good decision.

Colorado had a good core of young players and the future at that time looked very bright. No one could have forseen the disaster that has befallen the Avs since then. Iginla made a good choice at the time based on how the team was performing.

[stemit14]

Not to pick on him cause I think he's a better player than most give him credit for... But I think wideman will fit into this category. Especially if he has a bounce back season. If that happens he will likely be looking for a bieksa/beauchemin kind of deal. Both which contracts those teams are likely regretting now... This could lead to wideman misjudging the market for 30+ defencemen.


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[4X4]

Sometimes I wonder why there's even titles on threads.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Sometimes I wonder why there's even titles on threads.

I wonder if the Blue Jays are going to win the pennant.

[kyuss275]

Any aging slow, one dimensional player going forward will have a problem getting a contract. Iggy , Wideman , Bollig and many others could be done after this year.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I wonder if the Blue Jays are going to win the pennant.

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if there was no gravity.

[FireGilbert]

Other than being deadline trades, what do Glencross and Hudler even have in common?

Glenncross had never put up 50 points in a season and was forced to retire after not getting a contract while Hudler is one season removed from 76 points and a Lady Byng and is rumoured to be signing a contract any time.

[Coach]

Yeah if Hudler somehow isn't getting NHL offers, I would take him back in a heartbeat for a decent price. He may be small, but he'd still be our best option on the right side with those two until a physicaclly bigger talent can mow their way through. I maintain that injuries threw him off and he would be a good add for any team. The guy is a damn good hockey player.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Sometimes I wonder why there's even titles on threads.

It starts with posts like the one below. People just have things they want to say and don't worry about what the thread is actually for. I find most threads now a days just morph into about 5 or 6 different Flames topics (Wideman, Iginla, Monahan and Gaudreau signing, Jankowski etc) as soon as the first poster mentions it for no reason.

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Jarome Iginla could've done really well for himself if he'd just signed 1 year contracts for $1 million with Chicago, Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, but instead he chased the money to a terrible team in Colorado.

This is sort of the opposite of what you're asking, .

[TheScorpion]

I apologize. I did not intend to intrude upon this thread's discussion. I meant no harm, but I presented my ideas incorrectly and in an improper manner. Please continue on the subject at hand.

I'll throw Benoit Pouliot out there as a potential name, too.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by FBI

A Player that could have made a nice chunk of money if they took a way less greedy contract then they were asking for. Player who is getting on in age / skills are deteriorating. Player that the new NHL passes by. Player that doesn't get a contract.

Curious to see who you guys think will be biting the dust soon a la Glencross/Hudler/(potentially Russell etc)

It is a little premature to lump Hudler in with Glencross, until he announces his retirement he is not in the same situation.

[Azhouse]

Not to derail the thread but I agree with TheScorpion. As soon as Iginla signed that deal I thought "there goes his chance at a cup". If you want to win a cup taking a chance on an up and coming team for longer term is risky. He chose stability over a cup (which is fine) and thus may never win one.

He is a decent regular season player who has not really controlled the outcome of NHL playoff games since the 04 run in my opinion anyway though.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Jarome Iginla could've done really well for himself if he'd just signed 1 year contracts for $1 million with Chicago, Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, but instead he chased the money to a terrible team in Colorado.

This is sort of the opposite of what you're asking, but I think now the new NHL is passing him by and he'll never get a chance at a cup. I feel if he'd signed with better teams for 1 year each he'd have better stats which would allow him to play longer. Instead, he's floundering in a broken system in Colorado, and this coming year may be his last. I bet that if he was able to sign a 1 year deal with Chicago on July 1 this year for limited money, he'd have great success and his stats would skyrocket. He might even have gotten another contract for '17-'18. Instead, he'll get 30 points on a bad Avalanche team.

You know for fact that Chicago, LA and Pittsburgh were falling over themselves to sign Iggy?


Iggy signed with likely the only team who offered him a fair deal. Lucky for him, it was multi-year. The year he left the Pens, they said they would have loved to keep him around, but it didn't make sense with the cap situation. Same with the Bruins.

And like others have said, the Avs looked really good that year.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Azhouse

Not to derail the thread but I agree with TheScorpion. As soon as Iginla signed that deal I thought "there goes his chance at a cup". If you want to win a cup taking a chance on an up and coming team for longer term is risky. He chose stability over a cup (which is fine) and thus may never win one.

He is a decent regular season player who has not really controlled the outcome of NHL playoff games since the 04 run in my opinion anyway though.

Again, how do you know he had the chance to sign with any team he chose? What if the Avs were the only team offering him a deal?

Look at what happened with Glencross, Hudler and Russell. Vets don't really get re-signed anymore.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

You know for fact that Chicago, LA and Pittsburgh were falling over themselves to sign Iggy?


Iggy signed with likely the only team who offered him a fair deal. Lucky for him, it was multi-year. The year he left the Pens, they said they would have loved to keep him around, but it didn't make sense with the cap situation. Same with the Bruins.

And like others have said, the Avs looked really good that year.

Iggy reportedly turned down a 4 year offer from the Islanders and also was pursued by Tampa but chose Denver for family reasons. The Avs were coming off an extremely strong year with a core group of players 23 and under including a mega hyped 1st overall pick in MacKinnon.

[Steve Bozek]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Sometimes I wonder why there's even titles on threads.

I wonder if there's some way we can work Janko and the other draft choice options into this thread.