Once the Dumb 'tards in the Bush Cheney regime destabilized the region there was only ever the choice of staying there forever at vast cost of blood and money or leaving knowing full well it would devolve into a anarchic proto state full of bad guys.
It's NIreland for the U.S., there's no long term solution.
Seriously? Last I heard NI was a pretty damn peaceful society and has been since it was demilitarised. The two aren't even close to being comparable.
The argument is Obama pulling out of the middle east "founded" ISIS. Meanwhile he should be criticized for having troops there.
It's not a cohesive argument. There's lots of abhorrent use of drones, world police problems, etc, but this argument is silly
I remember going to house parties, watching uninvited guests show up, stir up ****, break or steal things and at the end of the night? The house was a disaster and they went home.
My concern with what is happening is, as if it already hasn't been happening for many years, is a perpetual state of war and officials being ousted and puppets put in place. Many times, those puppets are removed by their handlers as they are deemed unfit by the very group of people who trained and put them there.
No wonder we are all a bunch of 'dirty infidels'. We send off kids from poor areas of the US to go fight some BS war that equates to nothing more than asset protection for corporations. We aint there to peace keep, we aint there to right the wrongs of human rights violations, we are there for one reason and one reason only.
The use of drones is abhorrent. Not only for the people that don't stand a chance against an enemy they cant see or touch, I question the wisdom and morality of having a soldier operate a joystick somewhere in Colorado, killing people, and then going home for a nice meal at 5. Its repulsive.
Maybe the point is instead of placing blame, its impossibility only heightened by the fact that 'everyone is to blame', we cut bait, get the hell out, and don't turn around. Power vacuum be damned, our destabilization of the region is driving and fueling the very thing we are supposedly there to fight.
Eh, who am I kidding. DOD contracts have to be filled, and these fancy toys have to go kill someone. When our supposed allies flee their posts, give up their US granted kit to the enemy, we can all say no one is to blame while the flag draped boxes keep coming home.
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I remember going to house parties, watching uninvited guests show up, stir up ****, break or steal things and at the end of the night? The house was a disaster and they went home.
My concern with what is happening is, as if it already hasn't been happening for many years, is a perpetual state of war and officials being ousted and puppets put in place. Many times, those puppets are removed by their handlers as they are deemed unfit by the very group of people who trained and put them there.
No wonder we are all a bunch of 'dirty infidels'. We send off kids from poor areas of the US to go fight some BS war that equates to nothing more than asset protection for corporations. We aint there to peace keep, we aint there to right the wrongs of human rights violations, we are there for one reason and one reason only.
The use of drones is abhorrent. Not only for the people that don't stand a chance against an enemy they cant see or touch, I question the wisdom and morality of having a soldier operate a joystick somewhere in Colorado, killing people, and then going home for a nice meal at 5. Its repulsive.
Maybe the point is instead of placing blame, its impossibility only heightened by the fact that 'everyone is to blame', we cut bait, get the hell out, and don't turn around. Power vacuum be damned, our destabilization of the region is driving and fueling the very thing we are supposedly there to fight.
Eh, who am I kidding. DOD contracts have to be filled, and these fancy toys have to go kill someone. When our supposed allies flee their posts, give up their US granted kit to the enemy, we can all say no one is to blame while the flag draped boxes keep coming home.
Again though, this is not related to Trump's argument
Again though, this is not related to Trump's argument
That's because he's a barely functioning bipedal. But it was not my argument either; you cannot place the blame for the existence of ISIS solely at the feet of Obama or his state dept, but you can certainly chide them for the perpetuation of the cluster fata.
What was funny to me, well not really but... the only person during the primaries talking about removing the US from foreign entanglements was Rand Paul. The GOP backers winced so hard their asses took a bite out of their chair.
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How is it even possible that someone could be so unbelievably ignorant as to fail to understand when the USA went into Afghanistan and work on a presidential campaign in that role? Does this person not know who the Taliban are? Good God.
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If the country wants change....what makes you think that a status quo republicans would have any particular appeal?
Assuming HRC is the CIC, 2020 will be interesting because all of the underlying frustration about the status quo will have just festered for another 4 years.
Let's say hypothetically Rubio or Walker is the nominee right now, the narrative would be Clinton's emails and the fact that 60+% of Americans find her dishonest.
DJT's comments have basically overshadowed her faults.
Seriously? Last I heard NI was a pretty damn peaceful society and has been since it was demilitarised. The two aren't even close to being comparable.
N Ireland is far from peacefull, it's better than it was but it's still two semi religious communities that will hate each other at the drop of the hat. There isn't a way to solve it, just contain it at best, which is what they're doing now.
Let's say hypothetically Rubio or Walker is the nominee right now, the narrative would be Clinton's emails and the fact that 60+% of Americans find her dishonest.
DJT's comments have basically overshadowed her faults.
Except there is no guarantee of that. Rubio and Walker were both very flawed candidates in their own rights. I suspect that if either of those two were candidates we would be having a much larger discussion about campaign finance reform, the repeal of Citizen's United, and the limitation and removal of outside influences from politics in general. That is without getting into the gaffs that those two would have made on the larger stage. Neither Rubio nor Walker are good politicians in their own rights. They would have been destroyed on their own lack of credibility and policy gravitas.
Blaming Obama for ISIS is like blaming chemo therapy for cancer.
Well, chemo therapy can actually contribute to the developmemt of cancer cells in the future.
Maybe Obama really is the founder of ISIS?
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Let's say hypothetically Rubio or Walker is the nominee right now, the narrative would be Clinton's emails and the fact that 60+% of Americans find her dishonest.
DJT's comments have basically overshadowed her faults.
That is his strategy...talk about ANYTHING (whether X is true is superfluous to Trump...he knows it's BS) to get the spotlight on himself and suck the attention away from HRC. And it works...
How many posts have been made in this thread about Clinton's policies? How many that aren't about email or Benghazi? None I wager.
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That is his strategy...talk about ANYTHING (whether X is true is superfluous to Trump...he knows it's BS) to get the spotlight on himself and suck the attention away from HRC. And it works...
I really can't see how that could be true.
Trump now talks about Clinton all the damn time. The whole RNC was mostly about Clinton. It's clear Trump really, really wants this election to be about Clinton.
Besides, hether or not Trumps campaign is working is measured in polls, and those pretty clearly show that what ever he's trying to do, it's clearly NOT working.
On a lighter tone, I found this really interesting on top of being hilarious. A voiceactor overdubs Trumps speeches verbatim, just with a different tone and style. As a buddy of mine noted, "I'd never noticed how camp he is. It's like his voice says butch but his body language and text says ooooh girlfriend."
(There's over a dozen of these videos.)
(Also the content of that speech, just wow...)
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