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Old 08-03-2016, 10:01 PM   #9561
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CNN is running a Libertarian Town Hall at the moment. Johnson and Weld are impressive.
They are impressive. They present themselves more as moderate classic liberals than hardcore libertarians (which is a good thing if you ask me).

They also had one of the best political ads I've seen in a while:

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Hahaha I don't know if I'd end a political ad with "C'mon!"
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Hahaha I don't know if I'd end a political ad with "C'mon!"
Like the guy in the $5000 suit needs to take political advice from you. C'mon!
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It isn't ALL bad news for Trump: his campaign raised $80 million in July, less than Clinton but enough to build a warchest for the rest of the campaign.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...ly-2016-226615
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Getting away from the presidential election for a moment, the Director of Public Defenders in Missouri is currently dealing with a manpower crisis. His department is over-burdened with too many cases, but the state government repeatedly cut his budget, preventing him from hiring additional lawyers to keep up with the demand. So he thought outside the box and came up with a unique solution.

http://www.publicdefender.mo.gov/New...esentation.PDF

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Getting away from the presidential election for a moment, the Director of Public Defenders in Missouri is currently dealing with a manpower crisis. His department is over-burdened with too many cases, but the state government repeatedly cut his budget, preventing him from hiring additional lawyers to keep up with the demand. So he thought outside the box and came up with a unique solution.

http://www.publicdefender.mo.gov/New...esentation.PDF

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Hahahaha. That's awesome
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Awesome is an overused word.

Not today.

That is awesome!!!!!!
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Awesome in itself but Jay Nixon is a democratic governor in a state whose legislature is dominated by tea party Republicans. Who do you really think is responsible for funding measures failing to make it through?

Seriously, this is the ad for the GOP candidate in the gubernatorial election this year.

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Further proving this whole election might be one gigantic troll job...

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Nude photographs published this week are raising fresh questions about the accuracy of a key aspect of Melania Trump’s biography: her immigration status when she first came to the United States to work as a model.

The racy photos of the would-be first lady, published in the New York Post on Sunday and Monday, inadvertently highlight inconsistencies in the various accounts she has provided over the years. And, immigration experts say, there’s even a slim chance that any years-old misrepresentations to immigration authorities could pose legal problems for her today.

While Trump and her husband, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, have said she came to the United States legally, her own statements suggest she first came to the country on a short-term visa that would not have authorized her to work as a model.
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The Trump campaign and Trump Organization representatives did not address questions about the type of visa Trump first used to enter the country, but it has been widely reported that she came here on an H-1B work visa. Writer Mickey Rapkin, who interviewed Melania for a May profile in the luxury lifestyle magazine DuJour, said she confirmed as much to him. “When I interviewed Melania, I mentioned that she’d come to New York on that H-1B visa, and she nodded in agreement,” Rapkin wrote in an email to POLITICO.

Trump’s tale of returning to Europe for periodic visa renewals is inconsistent with her holding an H-1B visa at all times she was living in New York — even if it was the lesser-known H-1B visa specifically designed for models — said multiple immigration attorneys and experts. An H-1B visa can be valid for three years and can be extended up to six years — sometimes longer — and would not require renewals in Europe every few months. If, as she has said, Trump came to New York in 1996 and obtained a green card in 2001, she likely would not have had to return to Europe even once to renew an H-1B.

Instead, Trump’s description of her periodic renewals in Europe are more consistent with someone traveling on a B-1 Temporary Business Visitor or B-2 Tourist Visa, which typically last only up to six months and do not permit employment.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...#ixzz4GN354uf7

Most elections this wouldn't mean much, but when you have the hardest anti-immigrant candidate ever possibly married to an illegal immigrant...lol this campaign...
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:46 AM   #9570
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To me that line of attack crosses a line. Melatonin hasn't engaged in the campaign outside of the typical convention speech so going after her here seems offside. Yes it's amazingly hypocritical for trump but I think out of bounds.
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What line of attack? Being caught lying? And as the report mentions, this only happened because the incredibly pro-Trump New York Post posted the pictures of his wife, which raised the questions of whether she was in the country legally or not. So this is yet another self-inflicted wound by Trump, or in this case by one of his supporters.
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What line of attack? Being caught lying? And as the report mentions, this only happened because the incredibly pro-Trump New York Post posted the pictures of his wife, which raised the questions of whether she was in the country legally or not. So this is yet another self-inflicted wound by Trump, or in this case by one of his supporters.
Attacking Melania for being an illegal immigrant especially if she was a legal visitor who was just illegally working. And using that to discredit trump.
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:27 AM   #9573
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Do you think if we tried that line of "legal visitor who was just working illegally" for Mexicans, that Trump supporters would accept it? And if you can't find it to be totally hilarious that the most anti-immigrant candidate in modern history could be married to an illegal immigrant, you're taking this election too seriously.
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:39 AM   #9574
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To me that line of attack crosses a line. Melatonin hasn't engaged in the campaign outside of the typical convention speech so going after her here seems offside. Yes it's amazingly hypocritical for trump but I think out of bounds.
That boundary was ignored, crossed, and painted over long ago. "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion" - you're two millennia too late with that argument.
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Do you think if we tried that line of "legal visitor who was just working illegally" for Mexicans, that Trump supporters would accept it? And if you can't find it to be totally hilarious that the most anti-immigrant candidate in modern history could be married to an illegal immigrant, you're taking this election too seriously.
I find it hilarious.

But to me if the democrats ran with it and started attacking Milania with it its the same as Trump attacking the Khan's or Ted Cruz's wife. A level of decorum should be maintained. And just because Trump doesn't necessarily follow that doesn't mean the other side should throw it out to.
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Melania has also lied about having a university degree, and her website was recently scrubbed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/us...rump.html?_r=0

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Old 08-04-2016, 08:52 AM   #9577
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Some of us have been pointing out the emperor has no clothes for some time, but certain parties have continued to demand proof. Well, now we have photographic proof that the emporer's wife has no clothes (meow), and crushing the emporer's stance on immigration, when is enough, enough?
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I find it hilarious.

But to me if the democrats ran with it and started attacking Milania with it its the same as Trump attacking the Khan's or Ted Cruz's wife. A level of decorum should be maintained. And just because Trump doesn't necessarily follow that doesn't mean the other side should throw it out to.
The Democrats have nothing to do with this revelation. The media, in a rare instance of doing their job this election, figured it out on their own. I also doubt they attack Melania at all, they likely point out Trump's hypocrisy on the issue but that should be totally fair game. I expect they leave Melania alone.
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It wouldn't surprise me for someone to attack Melania over it not because it would change anything by itself, but to further provoke Trump who hasn't had a good few days to start with.
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Some of us have been pointing out the emperor has no clothes for some time, but certain parties have continued to demand proof.
Hahaha are you trying to cast yourself as some sort of visionary who saw the crazy that was Trump before others? Pretty sure there's no one here who was ever on board that train that just de-railed (again).
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