The New American Politics thread

[calgarygeologist]

I'm always amazed at how different politics are in Canada and the USA. One of the most amazing differences is how the stars and influential people get involved with the political cycle in the USA, especially with the Democratic party. I think it is extremely rare for a celebrity or for the CEO of a major company to join forces with a Canadian politician during an election. The closest thing I can remember is Wayne Gretzky appearing with Harper.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Buster

You could spend literally the next ten seconds on google and discover that you are wrong.

You are hopeless. I explained the difference between the two terms and the proper use. It is the same in Canada as the US. It depends on the type of paper you are writing and the type of research you are conducting. If you really want to get technical, the first three chapters would be considered a thesis. The last two chapters of the dissertation is normally where the doctorate is earned and differentiated.

I'm still waiting for the summary of Aslan's dissertation and for you to point out the errors in his work. And please stay off Reddit to get the summary. Your plagiarism will be easy to discover.

[Buster]

Originally Posted by New Era

You are hopeless. I explained the difference between the two terms and the proper use. It is the same in Canada as the US. It depends on the type of paper you are writing and the type of research you are conducting. If you really want to get technical, the first three chapters would be considered a thesis. The last two chapters of the dissertation is normally where the doctorate is earned and differentiated.

I'm still waiting for the summary of Aslan's dissertation and for you to point out the errors in his work. And please stay off Reddit to get the summary. Your plagiarism will be easy to discover.

It's common vernacular in Canada.

https://www.grad.ubc.ca/handbook-gra...raduate-thesis

Your thesis will be the final product of your time in graduate school. You should be planning your thesis from the very beginning of your degree program.

A thesis is a substantial piece of scholarly writing that reflects the writer's ability to:

conduct research
communicate the research
critically analyze the literature
present a detailed methodology and accurate results
verify knowledge claims and sources meticulously
link the topic of the thesis with the broader field
A thesis at the doctoral level is called a dissertation, but dissertations and theses are usually referred to collectively as theses. There are some differences between a master's and a doctoral thesis:

A master's thesis must demonstrate that the student knows the background and principal works of the research area, and can produce significant scholarly work. It should contain some original contribution whenever possible.
A doctoral thesis must contain a substantial contribution of new knowledge to the field of study. It presents the results and an analysis of original research, and should be significant enough to be published.
The UBC Library keeps copies of all theses written by UBC graduate students. Take a look for examples of theses in your area of interest. Your graduate program or supervisor may also have copies on hand.

Do not follow the formatting of these theses. Please refer to Masters and Doctoral Thesis Preparation and Submission on this web site for formatting details.

Now stop embarrassing yourself.

[Looch City]

Ya'll are wasting your time.

Someone just tweet Trump if he knows the difference between a thesis and a dissertation.

[Lanny_McDonald]

What's that line right before your first bolded sentence? A thesis at the doctoral level is called a dissertation. The rest of the description is just as I outlined. Funny, you were hung up on the "definition of racism" but you're not so concerned about accuracy of definition now. Funny how fluid your arguments are.

Still waiting on the summary of Aslan's dissertation.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

Ya'll are wasting your time.

Someone just tweet Trump if he knows the difference between a thesis and a dissertation.

Are you kidding? Trump thinks theses are how animals are classified and a dissertation is a discussion about what comes after dinner.

[Buster]

Originally Posted by New Era

What's that line right before your first bolded sentence? A thesis at the doctoral level is called a dissertation. The rest of the description is just as I outlined. Funny, you were hung up on the "definition of racism" but you're not so concerned about accuracy of definition now. Funny how fluid your arguments are.

Still waiting on the summary of Aslan's dissertation.

"but dissertations and theses are usually referred to collectively as theses."

Haha....you hate that I'm right.

All dissertations are theses but not all theses are dissertations. Unless you are more of an authority than UBC?

Stop digging.

[Buster]

If you need further explanation...let's take this to pm.

[Kybosh]

I have a goddamn PhD and I've literally never seen anyone argue semantics between dissertation and thesis before. Also, people beyond the 4-5 people on a PhD defense committee actual read the dissertation/thesis? Mind = Blown.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Buster

"but dissertations and theses are usually referred to collectively as theses."

Haha....you hate that I'm right.

All dissertations are theses but not all theses are dissertations. Unless you are more of an authority than UBC?

Stop digging.

One last time so this sticks with you. A dissertation and a thesis are different animals. It's like saying that a tiger and a house cat are the same, because they are both felines. The thesis would be consider a component of the dissertation, as they both require a committee, a proposal, a review of literature, a methods section, and then discussion of findings. There is little original work here and is a process of researching the existing body of literature on a problem and distillation of that literature in the discussion. The dissertation process is different in that it requires a substantial amount of work that does not exist in the thesis. The methods section is substantially longer and more detailed as the research design needs to be fleshed out, tools must be id notified and created, data collection and analysis must be explained. The actual research phase is a major difference as it must be reviewed and possibly subject to an IRB process. The next chapter is the research findings, which are compared and contrasted to the research questions and hypotheses. The last chapter contains the discussion on the original research, a conclusion on findings, and then a suggestion on possible future research. These components make a dissertation a dissertation. The dissertation is not a thesis as you suggest. The thesis could be called a component of the dissertation, but because of th detail and process used to approve the thesis section, that is not accurate.

You're right, let's take this to PM and stop cluttering the tread.

Originally Posted by Kybosh

I have a goddamn PhD and I've literally never seen anyone argue semantics between dissertation and thesis before. Also, people beyond the 4-5 people on a PhD defense committee actual read the dissertation/thesis? Mind = Blown.

You don't like reading pages and pages of repetitive methods? Come on, there's some really good stuff in dissertations and some pluses to reading them. Since I started reading them I haven't had to use a sleep medication.

[Buster]

Originally Posted by New Era

You're right, let's take this to PM and stop cluttering the tread.

From UBC....

This document describes UBC's structural and formatting requirements for both master's theses and doctoral dissertations. For brevity, the term “thesis” is used here to include both types of document.

One interesting thing....the British actually use dissertation for a master's degree and thesis for PhD (dphil). Canadians use the terms interchangeably.

Agreed. It's best if I explain it to you on pm.

[GirlySports]

[Lanny_McDonald]

Has anyone noticed the Republicans are now doing their best to link Clinton to the Russians? For the longest time it has been a Republican strategy to get out in front of damaging news to come by projecting the issues onto the Democrats. Could this be an instance of the Democrats beating the Republicans to the punch, and linking Trump to the Russians before the Clinton news broke, or is this just the Republicans tossing their poop and hoping it sticks?

[driveway]

Considering that the only thing the Trump people cared about at all in the Republican platform was not giving the Ukraine weapons to fight Russia, I think this is the Republicans responding to something that should be very, very concerning about their candidate by going "See! See! Her! Her too! Her even MORE!"

From everything I've read, the Trump people had absolutely nothing to say about anything in the Republican platform except this one specific issue.

The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...256_story.html

[Lanny_McDonald]

Trump is possibly losing an important segment of his support. The cranky old veteran segment of his support is starting to fracture. Seems Trump was a draft dodger. Vets aren't happy with his bad-mouthing of Khan.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Yes, there are some who are suggesting the Khizr Khan fiasco may be Trump's "McCarthy" moment, akin to the moment when Joe McCarthy questioned the loyalty of a young lawyer working for the Army, prompting Joseph Welch to ask "do you have no sense of decency, sir?" on national television.

Until then, McCarthy had seemed untouchable, but his career ended at that moment, as it was clear to all that he had gone too far.

Here, it seems Trump also went too far. And this is a weirdly self-inflicted wound: this whole thing would have blown over if he had done the smart thing and said nothing at all about it.

[Fuzz]

Like Hillary said, do you want someone to be President that can be baited by a tweet? Keep baiting this guy, he'll sink his own ship eventually. Hilary just needs to hire a master internet troll and let them go to town on Trump.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

A Republican congressman from upstate New York endorses Clinton:
http://www.syracuse.com/opinion/inde...litics_article

Provisos:
1. He's retiring, so this is politically maybe a bit easier;
2. He never endorsed Trump, and never seems to have liked him.

However, interesting that he cites the Khan controversy as an example of Trump's being a "national embarrassment." Also the second prominent Republican to do this in as many days and the first elected official.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by New Era

Trump is possibly losing an important segment of his support. The cranky old veteran segment of his support is starting to fracture. Seems Trump was a draft dodger. Vets aren't happy with his bad-mouthing of Khan.

I question how much any of this stuff will hurt him with the people who are already in his camp. A lot, maybe most, of his support comes from people who don't especially like him. He's just a wrench to throw into the political establishment to show them that the status quo is intolerable. They won't be voting for Trump, they'll be voting against the 'elites' who Trump attacks.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I question how much any of this stuff will hurt him with the people who are already in his camp. A lot, maybe most, of his support comes from people who don't especially like him. He's just a wrench to throw into the political establishment to show them that the status quo is intolerable. They won't be voting for Trump, they'll be voting against the 'elites' who Trump attacks.

You keep telling yourself this but I think if you look closer at the data you'd find that Trump's supporters are older, whiter and wealthier than the mean. Trump's base is by far bigots, not people that are suffering from economic anxiety. That people are suffering from economic anxiety has been a story lots of legs, it just doesn't hold up to the data. There's a much easier way to explain Trump's appeal, racists, bigots, and people who don't like how America is changing have rallied behind him.