08-01-2016, 03:00 PM
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#4961
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
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Shi Davidi @ShiDavidi
#BlueJays also getting two prospects from #Pirates
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Pirates getting one player from #BlueJays for Liriano and prospects.
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08-01-2016, 03:02 PM
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#4962
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Kelowna
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I'm not terribly educated as far as Baseball is concerned, but I'm liking these moves on their face
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08-01-2016, 03:03 PM
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#4963
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
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Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Liriano to Toronto, Hutchinson to PIT, others involved
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Also: Harold Ramirez AA OF to Toronto with Liriano
Last edited by jschick88; 08-01-2016 at 03:06 PM.
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08-01-2016, 03:12 PM
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#4964
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jschick88
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Liriano to Toronto, Hutchinson to PIT, others involved
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Also: Harold Ramirez AA OF to Toronto with Liriano |
Solid trade. I like Hutchison, but to get a legit starter and a couple of prospects for a AAA pitcher is pretty good. Ramirez looks like a solid prospect.
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08-01-2016, 03:12 PM
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#4965
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jschick88
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Liriano to Toronto, Hutchinson to PIT, others involved
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Also: Harold Ramirez AA OF to Toronto with Liriano |
Would have liked to have had Drew Hutchinson in case of an injury... but having another lefty was desperately needed.
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08-01-2016, 03:14 PM
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#4966
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Pirates fans are angry over this trade, which tells me it's good for Toronto. This prospect sounds legit.
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08-01-2016, 03:31 PM
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#4967
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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Interesting perspective...
@davepaskar: @cooom @domewardbound Feldman becomes Chavez, Bolsinger becomes Hutch, Liriano comes out of thin air for $13M #BlueJays
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08-01-2016, 03:35 PM
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#4968
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I really like all these deals. One of the analysts on Sportsnet also pointed out that the Jays really haven't given up anything in any of the trades, so how can they be bad getting serviceable players back? I admittedly haven't seen Liriano in a year, so I have no idea if he's still dominant, but giving up Hutchinson isn't a high price if Liriano has the same stuff from about 2 seasons back.
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08-01-2016, 03:39 PM
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#4969
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Another thing: with the Yanks going into full sell mode, I'm going to make a bold prediction this offeseason they're going to go for 2 of Saunders, Bautista, Encarnacion. Something is up.
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08-01-2016, 03:41 PM
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#4970
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fleury
I really like all these deals. One of the analysts on Sportsnet also pointed out that the Jays really haven't given up anything in any of the trades, so how can they be bad getting serviceable players back? I admittedly haven't seen Liriano in a year, so I have no idea if he's still dominant, but giving up Hutchinson isn't a high price if Liriano has the same stuff from about 2 seasons back.
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he has been pretty bad recently. .
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08-01-2016, 03:54 PM
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#4972
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappy
he has been pretty bad recently. .
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Yeah, just seen that ERA - in the NL as well. I doubt Hutchinson ever figures himself out, so I have no problem with a vet like Liriano bring brought in.
edit: also see he's still a strikeout machine - 113 IP, 116 K's. Can always use those.
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08-01-2016, 03:57 PM
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#4973
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Franchise Player
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Liriano is also under contract for next year as well, so if he works out the Jays have a 5 man rotation already set for 2017 with Sanchez, Stroman, Estrada. Happ and Liriano.
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08-01-2016, 04:01 PM
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#4974
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
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Another thing: with the Yanks going into full sell mode, I'm going to make a bold prediction this offeseason they're going to go for 2 of Saunders, Bautista, Encarnacion. Something is up.
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Yankees are gearing up for Donaldson, Kershaw, and Harper in 2018 when all the contracts come off the books.
But yeah don't be surprised to see Jose playing for them next seasobn
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08-01-2016, 04:11 PM
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#4975
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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@ShiDavidi: Catcher Reese McGuire and outfielder Harold Ramirez are prospects #BlueJays get with Francisco Liriano
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08-01-2016, 04:14 PM
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#4976
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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McGuire was #8 and Ramirez was #9 prospect on Pirates list (according to Tim&Sid, who I never watch)
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08-01-2016, 04:20 PM
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#4977
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
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From managing editor for Baseball America..
JJ Cooper @jjcoop36
There are legit questions over whether Reese McGuire will ever hit. But he can defend, so has some value as a C.
JJ Cooper @jjcoop36
Harold Ramirez can hit, but wouldn't play for the Pirates because he's behind Big Three + Meadows+Bell. But that's their #6 & #10 prospects
JJ Cooper @jjcoop36
Needless to say, I LOVE this deal for the Blue Jays. If they released Liriano tonight, I'd love it for them.
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08-01-2016, 04:31 PM
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#4978
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Liriano had his best seasons pitching to Martin in Pittsburgh. Hopefully Martin can get him back on track.
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08-01-2016, 04:35 PM
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#4979
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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Was it here where I read that if Sanchez goes to bullpen he won't be going back to starter at all?
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08-01-2016, 04:36 PM
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#4980
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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Atkins said that exactly - if he goes to the pen, he's there for the rest of the year
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