And then says "......depending who it was." What a goof.
At least he's acknowledging Duke this time, good for him I guess. When he pretended in February he didn't know who he was that didn't work out too well.
tough to think of what the democrat would have to do to not get the support.
Mind you, I suspect there will be other Republican candidates take out Duke before it even gets there.
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It's only July. There's plenty of time to woo people over before the election.
If this keeps up, the rest of the election cycle will be three months' worth of terror attacks and Russian-sponsored leaks. Trump won't even have to campaign.
Such a winnable election for the Republicans and they're probably still going to blow it. Unbelievable. Hopefully this is the kick in the pants they need to change some of their whack positions on social issues.
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Such a winnable election for the Republicans and they're probably still going to blow it. Unbelievable. Hopefully this is the kick in the pants they need to change some of their whack positions on social issues.
As wacky as they are, their only tangible support is from a significant portion of hardcore Christian Americans that eat that stuff up.
You have to wonder if there comes a point where the GOP starts looking at elections as a cost benefit analysis and goes "you know what? We've got an opportunity here...
- Democrats are horrible lately, to the point where most democrats despise their options
- Democrats looking like a shady, untrustworthy party, as more and more scandals/leaks come to light, no doubt brought on by having one of the slimiest political families ever in the Clintons in the spotlight
- America's ready to burst at the seems and are demanding change to the point of supporting a sociopathic, nitghmare of candidate
Maybe they look at all that and say "Maybe we just move in a more moderate direction, losing a lot of hardcore Christians while gaining a whole bunch of Democrats/non voters that all of a sudden see a slightly socially progressive option that isn't the Democrats.
I know it will never happen, but you have to think that the huge opportunity here for the Republicans is that the hardcore right isn't exactly a swing group, so it's not likely they'll lose their votes to the Democrates, those people will either just suck it up and be pissed off while still voting Republican or won't vote.
It would be so great for democracy in America (hahaha, I almost typed that without laughing) if something like this actually happened. If both parties just left the backwards idiots on their own maybe the could start moving forward.
I would imagine at most a third party candidate representing the hardcore right would get like 10-15% percent of the votes, and then Repulicans and Democrats would fight it out over "normal" Americans.
Although, perhaps I'm underestimating how many Amricans are normal.
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The two-party system is one of Americas biggest problems. How the hell you're supposed to cram the political opinions of 300 million people into two boxes I have no freaking clue.
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The two-party system is one of Americas biggest problems. How the hell you're supposed to cram the political opinions of 300 million people into two boxes I have no freaking clue.
It's really quite simple.
I'm right and you're wrong.
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The two-party system is one of Americas biggest problems. How the hell you're supposed to cram the political opinions of 300 million people into two boxes I have no freaking clue.
That's the point of the two party system. Divide and conquer.
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Sanders needs to pull his support and endorsement for Clinton and turn the DNC into a battle for the nomination. I expected the RNC to be a gong show last week with a possible movement against Trump but it looks like that might be more likely at the DNC. I'm shocked that anyone can support Clinton because she is such a crooked candidate. She doesn't give a [Mod Edit: no.] about the people of America and becoming President is only important for her so that she can go down in history as the first female President. She is so self-serving that it is disgusting. She is so much worse than Trump but the difference is that Trump does a worse job at public relations and Clinton has many more people analyzing and planning her every move.
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That's the point of the two party system. Divide and conquer.
Yep, not democracy. Vote for the blue team, vote for the red team, doesn't matter, it's all owned by money, much of it paying for the same things regardless of which party is elected.
Social issues are just a carrot for the American public to stay passionate and feel like they're voting for things and have a voice, so they don't question their government as a whole or rebel too hard against the system itself.
Right now is probably the most push back we've seen in most of our lifetimes (for the younger posters anyways) from Americans towards the rigged, non democratic political system.
Sanders needs to pull his support and endorsement for Clinton and turn the DNC into a battle for the nomination. I expected the RNC to be a gong show last week with a possible movement against Trump but it looks like that might be more likely at the DNC. I'm shocked that anyone can support Clinton because she is such a crooked candidate. She doesn't give a [mod edit] about the people of America and becoming President is only important for her so that she can go down in history as the first female President. She is so self-serving that it is disgusting. She is so much worse than Trump but the difference is that Trump does a worse job at public relations and Clinton has many more people analyzing and planning her every move.
He could do that if he's trying his best to get Trump elected I guess.
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So Hillary plays the dirty politics game eh. It's been going on in American politics for as long as I've followed it and probably as long as civilization itself. The difference these days is that it's getting harder to keep things under wraps.
I'll take Hillary over Trump 365 days of the year and twice on Sundays. Trump could be the worst thing that ever happens to the USA. At his best he's a loose canon.
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The questions for a lot of these Democrats are:
Do I hate Trump more than I hate the rigged system? and
Is the system so rigged, does it even matter if I vote?
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Sanders needs to pull his support and endorsement for Clinton and turn the DNC into a battle for the nomination. I expected the RNC to be a gong show last week with a possible movement against Trump but it looks like that might be more likely at the DNC. I'm shocked that anyone can support Clinton because she is such a crooked candidate. She doesn't give a [Mod Edit: no.] about the people of America and becoming President is only important for her so that she can go down in history as the first female President. She is so self-serving that it is disgusting. She is so much worse than Trump but the difference is that Trump does a worse job at public relations and Clinton has many more people analyzing and planning her every move.
I do not love Hillary. I voted against her in the primary.
There are some elections where potentially voting third party is worth it to make a statement. This is not that election.
1) The other choice is just a non-starter. The current GOP party stands against pretty much everything I believe in. They refuse to acknowledge science re: climate change. They refuse to believe psychologists who say that "conversion therapy" for minors is harmful and comparable to abuse. They refuse to accept that the LGBT community are human and equals and that they deserve the same rights as those around them. They refuse to believe that others' personal beliefs and rights are more important than their personal religious beliefs.
2) Trump himself could be disastrous for the country and frankly, the rest of the world.
3) There are three SCOTUS judges hanging in the balance. I do not want Trump--led by misogynistic, homophobic Mike Pence--picking those three judges.
This isn't about voting for Hillary, this about voting to keep a madman out of the White House, about telling the GOP that their current platform is flat out unacceptable in 2016.
I hate what happened with the primaries this year, and it needs to be handled. But until November, what needs to be dealt with is keeping Trump from winning.
Then we have four years to try to fix that other mess.
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Sanders needs to pull his support and endorsement for Clinton and turn the DNC into a battle for the nomination. I expected the RNC to be a gong show last week with a possible movement against Trump but it looks like that might be more likely at the DNC. I'm shocked that anyone can support Clinton because she is such a crooked candidate. She doesn't give a [Mod Edit: no.] about the people of America and becoming President is only important for her so that she can go down in history as the first female President. She is so self-serving that it is disgusting. She is so much worse than Trump but the difference is that Trump does a worse job at public relations and Clinton has many more people analyzing and planning her every move.
Clintons no worse than any other nominee and hell of a lot better than most, if she wasnt Bills wife, if she wasn't a woman no one would care about any of her history, they'd see it as just a sign of her being a good politician.
Clintons no worse than any other nominee and hell of a lot better than most, if she wasnt Bills wife, if she wasn't a woman no one would care about any of her history, they'd see it as just a sign of her being a good politician.
A good politician? How? If the system wasn't rigged Hillary would have lost and Sanders would be running against Trump.
