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Old 10-07-2006, 03:21 AM   #1
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Mr. President, these new lies go to the heart of what it is that you truly wish to preserve.

It is not our freedom, nor our country—your actions against the Constitution give irrefutable proof of that.

You want to preserve a political party’s power. And obviously you’ll sell this country out, to do it.
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Old 10-07-2006, 11:15 AM   #2
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Seems like this guy is the moral center of the media nowadays--the only guy with the courage to call a lie a lie, rather than resorting to the mealy-mouthed he said/she said of the establishment media. He's an impressive guy--like a modern-day Edward R. Murrow.
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Old 10-07-2006, 11:53 AM   #3
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He's certainly getting a lot of play on Calgarypuck recently... 3 Olbermann threads in 2 months, good stuff.
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Old 10-07-2006, 12:33 PM   #4
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I think it is brilliant that his approach is to implore and not to attack. That's very fresh.
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:14 PM   #5
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How much play is Olbermann getting? I know MSNBC isn't doing much in the ratings, but are any of K.O.'s viewpoints being heard outside of some internet forums?
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:16 PM   #6
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He hosts that show "Countdown" which is on at 10 pm weekdays on msnbc.
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Old 10-08-2006, 05:09 AM   #7
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Can't seem to quote your quotes Flash, but that is the crux many have tried to get to.

It's is how my posts started before people pushed and challenged.

This is a administration built on winning, not on improving the country.

And there is a significant amount of voting people who feel the same way.

That is no more attacking than what Mr. Olbermann said above (or ever) and not far off my previous 'thesis'.

The guy is brilliant, refreshing, correct, and unabashedly strong in his beliefs.
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Old 10-08-2006, 05:32 AM   #8
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I'm sorry but over the top (Democratic) ball licking just don't cover it.

10 seconds in...
Self destructed due to the revelations of a book with a red cover;
This administration lying? Is he sure? To fk-up is to lie? To be wrong is to lie?

But before that he takes time out to take a political shot at the US government via a scumbag that has no morals. Lets forget the rights of GAYs, kids, and simple decency. Lets make a stroke for political expediency!

Foley is a piece of garbage. No one can dispute this. But lets just forget about what really he represents.....abuse of power which is a big problem of, not justthe rebublicans, but worldwide (please see Canadian Liberals for good example.)

Obermann bends over backwards for a former president that cheats on his wife (ummm....just once, right?) and lies.

Now he takes a shot at another president because of a piece of garbage who he has no control over.


Hmmmmm


Now GW is rooting out the voices of freedom...hence this thread. Correct?
Yes I know Obermann was saying the opposite but thatis what he meant.

Holy murphy is this guy a loser.

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Old 10-08-2006, 10:08 AM   #9
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This administration lying? Is he sure? To fk-up is to lie? To be wrong is to lie?
You obviously need some help understanding what he was saying here. To accuse democrats of "not wanting to listen to the phone calls of terrorists," or "wanting to wait until we're attacked again" before acting--is a LIE. plain and simple. NO-ONE has said that, on either side of the aisle. If you'd rather call it a "fib," be my guest. But it's to knowingly say something that isn't true. In my books that's a lie. Call me a traditionalist, I guess.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:23 AM   #10
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You obviously need some help understanding what he was saying here. To accuse democrats of "not wanting to listen to the phone calls of terrorists," or "wanting to wait until we're attacked again" before acting--is a LIE. plain and simple. NO-ONE has said that, on either side of the aisle. If you'd rather call it a "fib," be my guest. But it's to knowingly say something that isn't true. In my books that's a lie. Call me a traditionalist, I guess.

Are you sure? According to Democrat spokes personage Mikky Moore there is NO threat.

So which is more likely when the Democrats win one or both houses back and the White House.

1) A TRULY complete turn around of policy from the one which GWB has taken

or

2) Obermann tooting how wonderful life is when Democrats do the same friggin thing as Republicans?
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You obviously need some help understanding what he was saying here. To accuse democrats of "not wanting to listen to the phone calls of terrorists," or "wanting to wait until we're attacked again" before acting--is a LIE. plain and simple. NO-ONE has said that, on either side of the aisle. If you'd rather call it a "fib," be my guest. But it's to knowingly say something that isn't true. In my books that's a lie. Call me a traditionalist, I guess.
Save your keystrokes. HOZ is an idiot and his reading comprehension skills are at the 1st grade level. If the article doesn't come in either magenta or cyan crayola it is written in terms well past his mental capacity. How anyone can not understand what is being said is beyond me as he explicitly states his meaning multiple times. Then again, when someone openly defends PEDOPHILES, and sides with those that would defend them, what do you expect? There is no logic to do so unless you are a pedophile yourself. Hey, maybe there are more than just hockey on those game tapes in HOZ's closet!!!

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Save your keystrokes. HOZ is an idiot and his reading comprehension skills are at the 1st grade level. If the article doesn't come in either magenta or cyan crayola it is written in terms well past his mental capacity. How anyone can not understand what is being said is beyond me as he explicitly states his meaning multiple times. Then again, when someone openly defends PEDOPHILES, and sides with those that would defend them, what do you expect? There is no logic to do so unless you are a pedophile yourself. Hey, maybe there are more than just hockey on those game tapes in HOZ's closet!!!


Lanny...mothership.....contact.....please.


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Old 10-08-2006, 10:56 AM   #13
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Are you sure? According to Democrat spokes personage Mikky Moore there is NO threat.

So which is more likely when the Democrats win one or both houses back and the White House.

1) A TRULY complete turn around of policy from the one which GWB has taken

or

2) Obermann tooting how wonderful life is when Democrats do the same friggin thing as Republicans?
Michael Moore is a democratic congressman? Wow, I HAVE been out of touch for a while. And here I thought there was NO RELATIONSHIP between Moore and the Democratic party brass. Silly me.

I suppose you think Edward R. Murrow was an idiot too.

Out of curiosity, what do you think the "book with a red cover" that Olbermann referred to is? You seem to imply that he's making some sort of sinister allegation, but I know exactly what book he's talking about. Do you?
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Lanny...mothership.....contact.....please.

Try staying on topic Mr. Pedophile supporter. I know its tough when you don't have anything to support yourself, but at least try. All the arm waving in the world is not going to distract people from the fact that YOU HAVE THROWN YOUR SUPPORT BEHIND AN ADMITTED PEDOPHILE and the party that blindly allows the behavior to take place. Gid knows we'd hate to hammer them for anything. God knows we'd hate to call out the guy whose leadership they follow and blindly support. Hey, since you want to play the picture game, try some of these on for size. They are much more representative of your position than mine.









This is just so easy!!!

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Love the political cartoons, Lanny! I hope that this is a mess that the Republicans cannot recover from.

The USA needs a change in leadership.
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Old 10-08-2006, 03:01 PM   #16
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This guy is refreshingly intelligent. Instead of simply bashing people Bill O'Riley style and calling them stupid, he uses a chain of logic and great intellect to form his opinions. He then presents them in a manner which is as much persuasive as it is well thought out, courageous and brilliant.

More people should listen to what this guy has to say.
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Wow when did Micheal Moore become a democrat, I thought he was in favor of the Green Party which is far more left than most if not all Democrats.
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I'm sorry but over the top (Democratic) ball licking just don't cover it.

10 seconds in...
Self destructed due to the revelations of a book with a red cover;
This administration lying? Is he sure? To fk-up is to lie? To be wrong is to lie?

But before that he takes time out to take a political shot at the US government via a scumbag that has no morals. Lets forget the rights of GAYs, kids, and simple decency. Lets make a stroke for political expediency!

Foley is a piece of garbage. No one can dispute this. But lets just forget about what really he represents.....abuse of power which is a big problem of, not justthe rebublicans, but worldwide (please see Canadian Liberals for good example.)

Obermann bends over backwards for a former president that cheats on his wife (ummm....just once, right?) and lies.

Now he takes a shot at another president because of a piece of garbage who he has no control over.


Hmmmmm


Now GW is rooting out the voices of freedom...hence this thread. Correct?
Yes I know Obermann was saying the opposite but thatis what he meant.

Holy murphy is this guy a loser.
Come on HOZ...
The Republicans aren't the bastion of conservative voice they once were. They've practically suspended Habeus Corpeus for goodness sake... great libertarians...
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LOL no wonder American politics is so polarized. Fart listen to the stupidity of Canadians harping about it. Republicans because they cater to certain sectors of the populace will be saints. Democrats are better because they are willing to change. HO, HO, HO.

The one that really made me laugh was somebody getting on some guy cause he was just doing this to stay in power. Man talk about stupid or naive. There isn't a politician on the planet whose primary purpose i sn't to try and stay in power.

Classifying one party or one president as anything other than a politician is stupid. You can't prove it because it's impossible. Any unbiased look at it by those with no axe to grind confirms the facts.

Politicians are BS. Party and country makes no difference. Want lies or hypocrisy or any other thing to back up that statement. I could type for the rest of my life and NEVER be done.

It's a horsemanure argument. Changing parties will change ZERO. They will immediately begin the process of feeding at the trough and trying to stay in power.
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It's a horsemanure argument. Changing parties will change ZERO. They will immediately begin the process of feeding at the trough and trying to stay in power.
Then what should the average voter do? Not vote? You don't think that the Republicans being in power for say, 30 years would be any different than if Repub/Dem's swapped leadership every 4-8 years? No difference at all because they're all slimy politicians?
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