07-19-2016, 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
That is standard operating procedure in the NHL. The side that loses an arbitration case will dismiss the arbitrator.
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Is that standard for any other sports?
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07-19-2016, 04:33 PM
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#502
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
That is standard operating procedure in the NHL. The side that loses an arbitration case will dismiss the arbitrator.
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Not sure about that. Oldham has been an arbitrator for the owners and union since 2004. Seems rather unlikely to me that the Wideman appeal was the first time his services were necessary.
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07-19-2016, 04:48 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Not sure about that. Oldham has been an arbitrator for the owners and union since 2004. Seems rather unlikely to me that the Wideman appeal was the first time his services were necessary.
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Don't think Oldham has been involved in anything until Wideman.
The Kovalchuk arbitrator, Richard Bloch, was fired by the NHLPA after his ruling and replaced by George Nicholau:
https://twitter.com/tsnbobmckenzie/s...32408818212864
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07-19-2016, 04:59 PM
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huh. I would have imagined these guys would be handling things like salary arbitration too.
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07-19-2016, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Is that standard for any other sports?
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I believe the guy that was just canned used to work for major league baseball but was also canned following strike arbitration?
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07-19-2016, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I believe the guy that was just canned used to work for major league baseball but was also canned following strike arbitration?
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I guess as long as the one cheque they do get is big enough and doesnt bounce then go for it.
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07-19-2016, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Locke
I guess as long as the one cheque they do get is big enough and doesnt bounce then go for it.
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07-19-2016, 05:51 PM
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In the vast majority of collective agreements in Canada, both the employer and the union must agree to nominate an arbitrator to hear a grievance.
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07-19-2016, 07:10 PM
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The NHL needs to let it go, he missed 19 games FFS.
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07-19-2016, 10:23 PM
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damn onions
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Agreed, the NHL has been incredibly petty and operated with the lowest of professionalism and class in this instance.
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07-19-2016, 10:46 PM
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Resolute has mentioned this before, the league doesnt have a choice.
If they believe that the Arbitrator misinterpreted the CBA then they cant just 'let it go' because his decision becomes legal precedent and effectively alters that same CBA which is pretty much as bad as it gets.
Its not about the PA, its not about Wideman, its about the CBA.
If a third party goes around changing the rules of the CBA then it isnt the same document anymore.
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07-19-2016, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jacks
The NHL needs to let it go, he missed 19 games FFS.
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Not only that but, made him unmovable before the deadline. He would have been gone and off the books by now. Thanks NHL!!
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07-19-2016, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
Not only that but, made him unmovable before the deadline. He would have been gone and off the books by now. Thanks NHL!!
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First off, we don't know if there was even a market for him. And second, this isn't about how many games he missed. This has been talked about to death.
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07-20-2016, 02:55 AM
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Bettman looks bad in this, if it wasn't for deflate-gate he would look like a complete idiot.
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07-20-2016, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Agreed, the NHL has been incredibly petty and operated with the lowest of professionalism and class in this instance.
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Why? Because a few fans are totally butthurt over the fact that the legal and business realities of running a $4 billion business are real?
The NHL believes Oldham ignored the very CBA his powers and responsibilities are derived from. They absolutely must challenge this.
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07-20-2016, 09:20 AM
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#516
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Should they get an arbitrator to determine if the arbitrator was following the CBA closely enough?
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07-20-2016, 09:45 AM
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I just can't believe the NHL won't just let it go.
He served 19 effing games.
I'm surprised the Flames aren't actually trying to after the NHL for some type of losses or damages because their player was sat for 9 extra games. The Flames are probably being a good little soldier though and not upsetting the NHL apple cart.
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07-20-2016, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I just can't believe the NHL won't just let it go.
He served 19 effing games.
I'm surprised the Flames aren't actually trying to after the NHL for some type of losses or damages because their player was sat for 9 extra games. The Flames are probably being a good little soldier though and not upsetting the NHL apple cart.
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He should have served 20.
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07-20-2016, 09:48 AM
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#519
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Originally Posted by 4X4
He should have served 20.
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Well, actually no. An independent third party ruled that he should have only served 10.
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07-20-2016, 09:51 AM
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Well, actually no. An independent third party ruled that he should have only served 10.
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That guy was wrong. And now he's been fired for being bad at his job. 
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