The New American Politics thread

[RougeUnderoos]

CNN now reporting that Trump will be landing in his Trump plane this morning, getting out and climbing into his helicopter for an 800 yard flight to land at a makeshift helipad near the convention.

The geography of this seems a little suspicious (the basketball arena is 800 meters from the airport?) but you gotta love how this guy appeals to the little guy either way.

[CaptainCrunch]

But Helicopter

This only works if its fitted with rockets and has a door gunner or two, because NRA

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

CNN now reporting that Trump will be landing in his Trump plane this morning, getting out and climbing into his helicopter for an 800 yard flight to land at a makeshift helipad near the convention.

The geography of this seems a little suspicious (the basketball arena is 800 meters from the airport?) but you gotta love how this guy appeals to the little guy either way.

Depends where you measure from, but it is about 1.5km.

[wwkayaker]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Depends where you measure from, but it is about 1.5km.

Which still doesn't require a helicopter.

[CaptainCrunch]

I don't know, I have to say if I was a billionaire who owned a choppa, I would use it as much as I can.

Out of milk? Fire up the Choppa to go to the corner store.

Have to take the kids to hockey, that arena better have a choppa pad.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by wwkayaker

Which still doesn't require a helicopter.

You ever driven through Cleveland?

I'd want a helicopter too.

[wwkayaker]

Originally Posted by nik-

You ever driven through Cleveland?

I'd want a helicopter too.

Nope but I have driven through Chicago. If the cities are comparable, I get your point!

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

And just to sort of sum up what a disaster the GOP convention is, yesterday was "Make America Work Again" day at the convention. Of note, the word "work" was only the 10th most mentioned word, and employment, unemployment, jobs, economy were nowhere to be found. Predictably what was? Hillary.

The non-ruling party often gets into this trap of just bashing the governing party and not having a position of their own. They can say 'you suck' for only so long before having to say 'we're better because..', John Kerry did this in 2004 just railing on how much Bush sucked without giving a position of his own and he lost badly because of it.

The GOP has to give it's position clearly in the next two days. The bashing was good but that's enough of it.

What is today's topic? 'Make America work again, again"?

[Senator Clay Davis]

We have our patsy. I'm sure she'll be well compensated. Or....is she even real? Who knows with this ####ing campaign?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

So why was Trump's campaign manager and communications director and everyone else denying it over the past couple of days and blaming Hillary? Or saying there was no chance the speech was plagiarized?

If anything that statement makes the entire Trump campaign look stupid. Why not just say that right off the bat and get on with life?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Not only does it make them look bad, and its them essentially confirming Melania lifted from Michelle, but apparently if Meridith is a true Trump employee, she may have violated election law. It would constitute an "in kind" donation, so if Trump doesn't file properly it will be an illegal move. What a bunch of #### ups. But he only hires "the best people"....his campaign is easily the worst run ever, which says it all about the rest of the 2016 GOP field.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Doesn't this story ALSO confirm that Melania Trumo actively and deliberately plagiarized that passage from Michelle Obama's speech?? She pulled out the passage and READ IT TO HER SPEECHWRITER over the phone. Then, presumably, she read the exact words in the next draft of her speech. Then she read them AGAIN, in front of the TV cameras and convention audience.

How does this explanation make Melania look better? If anything, the speechwriter could have made an innocent error by not knowing that words being read to her were lifted directly from another speech, but Melania knew these words were Obama's, read them to her speechwriter asking for them to be added and then read them out again on live television.

[Senator Clay Davis]

And can CNN please get rid of Lewandowski already? What a disaster...

Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, has been advising billionaires thinking of setting up a pro-Trump super-PAC, he told The Hill on Wednesday.

Lewandowski's acknowledgement of his role comes shortly after he flatly denied involvement in any super-PAC in a statement to BuzzFeed, the news outlet that broke the story.

Lewandowski, who is now a CNN contributor, initially repeated the denial to The Hill.
"I'm not raising money for anyone. I have nothing to do with any super-PACs," Lewandowski said via text message on Wednesday morning.

But confronted with more detailed information obtained by The Hill, Lewandowski admitted to The Hill that billionaire GOP mega-donors Joe and Kelly Craft had asked him for advice in forming a possible new group.

"I offered advice. That's what they asked for," Lewandowski said.

"I'm not involved in it. I don't get paid, don't consult, just told people HOW to do it."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...ro-trump-super

[flames_fan_down_under]

Christ the mental gymnastics these morons go through on a minute by minute basis must be exhausting.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I'm sure some of the things Trump has said about African Americans over the years will really help him with the black vote. And you know there's more of this stuff that will come out over the next number of months.

Trump has vowed that he would unify the races as president.

“I am not a racist,” he told The Washington Post in an interview earlier this year. “I’m the least racist person that you’ve ever interviewed.”

Several years later, after Trump had expanded his real estate empire by building casinos in Atlantic City, a former executive from his business accused him of making racist statements. John O’Donnell, who was president of the Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino and later wrote a memoir about his experience, said Trump blamed financial difficulties partly on African American accountants.

“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza — black guys counting my money!” O’Donnell’s book quoted Trump as saying. “I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else. . . . Besides that, I’ve got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is; I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

O’Donnell said in an interview that he admonished Trump not to talk that way.

“You’re sitting there listening to him talk in stereotypes about black people being lazy and that it was a trait in his mind. And you just go, ‘Oh my God,’ ” O’Donnell said.

Trump told Playboy magazine that O’Donnell’s memoir was “probably true.” He told The Post earlier this year that the book was “fiction,” although he hadn’t read it. Trump said he fired O’Donnell, but O’Donnell said he quit.

In 1989, Trump inserted himself into a racially charged case in New York City. Five boys, four black and one Hispanic, ages 14 to 16, had been arrested for the brutal attack and rape of a woman who had been jogging in Central Park. Two weeks later, Trump paid for a full-page ad in four New York newspapers urging the return of the death penalty and warning of “roving bands of wild criminals.”

The jogger suffered permanent damage. The boys were convicted and served six to 13 years in prison. But years later, a career criminal confessed to the rape, providing a DNA match. The convictions were overturned, and the city paid $41 million to settle a wrongful-imprisonment suit that the men had filed. Trump called the settlement “a disgrace,” refused to apologize, and said, “These young men do not exactly have the pasts of angels.”

“A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market,” Trump said on the program. “I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that. I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...5317&tid=ss_tw

[taco.vidal]

This thread has turned into leftist love-in.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Doesn't this story ALSO confirm that Melania Trumo actively and deliberately plagiarized that passage from Michelle Obama's speech?? She pulled out the passage and READ IT TO HER SPEECHWRITER over the phone. Then, presumably, she read the exact words in the next draft of her speech. Then she read them AGAIN, in front of the TV cameras and convention audience.

How does this explanation make Melania look better? If anything, the speechwriter could have made an innocent error by not knowing that words being read to her were lifted directly from another speech, but Melania knew these words were Obama's, read them to her speechwriter asking for them to be added and then read them out again on live television.

In fairness to Melania you have to be able to know what plagiarism is to really be guilty of it, I'm sure staffers tried to explain in terms she's understands, 'it's as if you went to a party wearing the same dress as the host'.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

This thread has turned into leftist love-in.

Yes, with appearances from CP's most notable leftists, CaptainCrunch, transplant99, peter12, and killer_carlson.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I like how thinking Trump is crazy/####ed in the head/maniacal makes you a leftist. I'm pretty sure that just makes you sane and rational.

[wwkayaker]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

So why was Trump's campaign manager and communications director and everyone else denying it over the past couple of days and blaming Hillary? Or saying there was no chance the speech was plagiarized?

If anything that statement makes the entire Trump campaign look stupid. Why not just say that right off the bat and get on with life?

The Trump campaign looked stupid loooong before the plagiarism incident.