07-18-2016, 09:42 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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The more i see/read about this stuff the more I am convinced that when the deals are announced i will think to myself...
"I'll be damned.....Treliving went ahead and did it again!!"
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07-18-2016, 10:01 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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He has to be one of the most mature 21 year olds in the NHL. Hard to believe he will be starting his fourth NHL season this fall. Flames are lucky to have him and would love to see him under contract for eight years.
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07-18-2016, 10:12 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 161 St. - Yankee Stadium
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Monahan really needs to tone it down... He's approaching PK territory.
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07-18-2016, 10:16 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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I don't think his voice has rose or lowered more than half an octave either direction since the day he was drafted by the Flames.
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07-18-2016, 10:17 PM
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#25
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Lifetime Suspension
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6.0 for the Monahan
6.75 for Johnny B Goode
on long term deals
That's about a 0.25-0.50m discount for both.
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07-18-2016, 10:29 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Why oh why do people under rate Monahan so bad?
Johnny's higher point total is due to his position played. Monahan has less points due to the fact that he had many more responsibilities away from the puck compared to a winger. Are people also forgetting that Monahan was also a 30 goal man?
Those two should get identical 8 year deals.
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07-18-2016, 10:34 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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I think it's because Gaudreau added to his point totals, while Monahan didn't. They didn't exactly produce at the same levels this year.
In terms of points, Monahan's comparables make less than Gaudreau's comparable (Tarasenko).
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07-18-2016, 10:35 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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I think some people forget Johnny finished 6th in NHL scoring his second year in the league...he is on another level
this is no knock on Sean
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07-18-2016, 11:21 PM
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#29
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Montréal, QC
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Why is Sean doing interviews and going to see Johnny when he should be working out???
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07-18-2016, 11:25 PM
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#30
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: TEXAS!!
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Talk is cheap.
Monahan may be willing to leave money on the table, but his agent may not feel the same way, and I can't help but feel that if Monahan's contract was going to leave a bunch of money on the table then it would have been done months ago.
This is just a good team player in a Canadian market saying good team player Canadian market things.
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07-18-2016, 11:47 PM
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#31
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Par
I don't think Johnny will do that, both of these guys will probably sign two contracts in their careers.
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That's a pretty bold prediction considering they've both already signed one. You're quite literally predicting that two NHL stars will be out of the league before 30 years old IF they sign max term. 
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07-18-2016, 11:50 PM
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#32
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jun 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Party Elephant
Why is Sean doing interviews and going to see Johnny when he should be working out???
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Ha-ha obvious troll!!
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07-18-2016, 11:51 PM
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#33
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dabrit
Ha-ha obvious troll!!
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Inside joke, not trolling.
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07-19-2016, 12:07 AM
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#34
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYC
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This is a non-story with some pretty good quotes. Sounds sincere, and no reason to think he doesn't sign long term here if the Flames pay in kind. Pump the brakes on the praise for the organization though, until he puts pen to paper. Posturing in the best sense.
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07-19-2016, 08:29 AM
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#35
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Mony AAV at 6.25, Johnny at 6.75 for as long as they are willing to sign! Johnny pays for the superbowl party and they are set.
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07-19-2016, 08:39 AM
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#36
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!
Talk is cheap.
Monahan may be willing to leave money on the table, but his agent may not feel the same way, and I can't help but feel that if Monahan's contract was going to leave a bunch of money on the table then it would have been done months ago.
This is just a good team player in a Canadian market saying good team player Canadian market things.
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Yes, what did people expect him to answer to that question? It would have been funny if he'd said: "To hell with the team, I'm going to get paid big time".
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07-19-2016, 09:28 AM
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#38
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First Line Centre
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Well from the sounds of things he likes playing with Johnny Gaudreau, and since Gaudreau is going to Philly it is pretty obvious that Monahan is stalling while Philadelphia puts an offer sheet together.
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07-19-2016, 09:44 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Really no reason to believe he could, or should sign for less than market value. And I would hope the organization does not ask him to.
Do you think the owners said to Burke, "we know you are worth $xx, but if we could pay you a little less, we would have more money to spend on scouting and development".
Pay your players market value. I don't personally believe Stamkos took a discount exactly. He decided that he was happier with what TB was offering and playing for that team, than earning more somewhere else. Yzerman offered him exactly what he thought he was worth to that team. I suspect that is exactly what BT is doing.
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07-19-2016, 09:51 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Really no reason to believe he could, or should sign for less than market value. And I would hope the organization does not ask him to.
Do you think the owners said to Burke, "we know you are worth $xx, but if we could pay you a little less, we would have more money to spend on scouting and development".
Pay your players market value. I don't personally believe Stamkos took a discount exactly. He decided that he was happier with what TB was offering and playing for that team, than earning more somewhere else. Yzerman offered him exactly what he thought he was worth to that team. I suspect that is exactly what BT is doing.
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I don't think Stamkos took a discount at all. He isn't even a point per game player. Why would you pay him anything over $8.5MM?
IMO the reason the Johnny and Mony deals are taking long (relatively speaking) to complete is because agents are pushing for bonus heavy contracts these days due to the likely lockout that will happen again. So it takes some time to hash that out vs a traditional straight salary deal.
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