07-15-2016, 02:07 PM
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#81
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
 You just asked me a direct question about Stajan. 
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You brought up his name randomly in this thread first. Are you being serious right now?
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07-15-2016, 02:18 PM
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#82
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
You brought up his name randomly in this thread first. Are you being serious right now?
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See, this proves it. Even ricardow doesn't pay attention to what he says. Therefore, no one else should either.
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07-15-2016, 02:41 PM
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#83
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Josh Jooris @JJooris19
Forever grateful to the @NHLFlames for giving me the opportunity. Thanks to the CofRed for all your support!
Josh Jooris @JJooris19
So honored and excited to be a part of the @NYRangers organization. Can't wait to get started! #Big
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07-15-2016, 05:27 PM
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#84
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Definitely a guy that you just can't hate. I'm happy the Flames are moving on, but even happier that he's gotten an opportunity elsewhere.
Best of luck Josh!
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07-15-2016, 07:19 PM
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#85
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Generalfanager has his contract listed as a generous two-way. NHL salary is $600,000 and AHL salary is $350,000 with $400,000 guaranteed.
http://www.generalfanager.com/players/374
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07-15-2016, 08:44 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
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@Monahan20
The bigggg joooooor. Gunna miss you next year. Good thing I still get to watch this all summer @JJooris19 skwaaaa https://t.co/AViEVe6xSV
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07-16-2016, 08:38 PM
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#87
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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I'm sad to see Jooris go, I wish the Flames would've held onto him but I understand at the same time why they are choosing to move on. I also follow/like the Rangers so I will be tracking his progression this year. I will always remember his first career hat trick against Arizona in that magical 2014-15 season coming out of college.
Best of luck in the concrete jungle, Josh!
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07-17-2016, 12:48 AM
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#88
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I singled him out as Stajan, Jooris, Bollig, Bouma get singled out for their poor play a lot while Ferland seems to escape a lot of the same criticisms. The bottom line is that they were all bad and they need to be better next season as you can't have your 4th line dragging you down on a nightly basis.
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Ferland also showed us he has another gear come playoff time, and he's still very much got upside. That Vancouver series he completely changed the emotion, and the outcome, of that series.
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07-17-2016, 05:23 AM
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#89
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Lifetime Suspension
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General rule of thumb : don't get attached to bottom of the roster players. Cutting guys like Jooris loose is the new normal. The old bad management would have clung on to these guys.
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07-17-2016, 05:25 AM
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#90
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Lifetime Suspension
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On Ferland, he deserves another season to prove his stuff but he's also replaceable if it's more of the same.
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07-17-2016, 07:23 AM
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#91
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Hopefully that fire is stoked again on a new team. Was a spark plug his first year, but last season was ugly. When he got himself a spot in the lineup and time to play he'd shoot himself in the foot with bad penalty after bad penalty.
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Fun fact, he only took 8 minor penalties (and no majors) after November 10th. So I would argue it would be quite difficult to take bad penalty after bad penalty when you take just 8 penalties in your final 45 games. No doubt he had a really bad stretch penalty wise to start the season but after he boarded Ekblad on November 10th the penalties went away for the most part.
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07-17-2016, 08:09 AM
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#92
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Fun fact, he only took 8 minor penalties (and no majors) after November 10th. So I would argue it would be quite difficult to take bad penalty after bad penalty when you take just 8 penalties in your final 45 games. No doubt he had a really bad stretch penalty wise to start the season but after he boarded Ekblad on November 10th the penalties went away for the most part.
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The funnest fact is that with limited ice time when he did play and 20 less games played then the players surrounding him Jooris ended up 4th on this team in minor penalties. There was a stretch of 24 games where Bollig only two two minor penalties, do I forgive him for the rest of the year because of that? No, certainly not. Bollig takes bad penalties.
You can forgive (to a degree) guys like Giordano or Hamilton for being high, they're eating up prime minutes against top competition. But for 4th line players, playing very limited roles they can't put their teams to a disadvantage when they do get an opportunity to play. Not with utterly needless hooking and tripping penalties.
I like Jooris, I hope he does well and bounces back with the Rangers, potentially good energy PK forward there but last season was terrible, no ifs ands or buts about it. In a cap world, which the Flames are up against you can't be overpaying these bottom line fringe guys.
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07-17-2016, 11:42 AM
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#93
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I've no opinion on whether it applies to Jooris, but "bad" penalties so so subjective that it's an almost unarguable point. For some it's bad when there is a powerplay coming and you go and unnecessarily even up the sides by giving the extra punch. But to others that's protecting the teammate. To some, it includes extra force when the Flames are pressing in the offensive zone (while to some that's just playing with an edge).
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07-17-2016, 11:55 AM
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#94
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Fun fact, he only took 8 minor penalties (and no majors) after November 10th. So I would argue it would be quite difficult to take bad penalty after bad penalty when you take just 8 penalties in your final 45 games. No doubt he had a really bad stretch penalty wise to start the season but after he boarded Ekblad on November 10th the penalties went away for the most part.
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I think any time you play for a team that takes so few penalties (which is a staple of what's kept the Flames from being the worst team in the league the last handful of years despite some pretty dated core systemic concepts) every penalty gets magnified. If you compare Jooris to the average bottom sixer on an average penalty-taking team he's probably... average.
Last edited by GranteedEV; 07-17-2016 at 11:59 AM.
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07-21-2016, 11:31 AM
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#95
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Calgary
Exp: 
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http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/07/20...w-york-rangers
Article today about Jooris & why he's heading to NYR.
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“(The Flames) kept me in the loop,” Jooris said. “They told me they liked me and said they’d circle back. But they needed to take care of other things and I was obviously a little bit secondary. It’s tough to fit everyone in … I just wasn’t sure if I was going to fit.
“I saw a great opportunity in New York and just jumped at it.”
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“I definitely built amazing relationships in Calgary with the guys and within the organization,” he said. “I was thankful for the opportunity they gave me and I learned a lot as a player. I was able to get my foot in the door and they granted me that opportunity. That was amazing.
“The two years I spent in Calgary were an unbelievable part of my career and part of my life.”
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