The worst part is, Tim's tea is awful because they scald the leaves with water that hot. It's basically boiling or just below boiling when they dispense it. Boiling water should rest for at least 60s before tea is added.
The public has been hugely misinformed about incidents like this. Check out the trailer to Hot Coffee (HBO), a documentary that explains why the jury awarded 2.9 million for the coffee spill. I haven't watched it in a while but if I recall correctly, the amount was one day of profits for the California McDonalds', meant to correct their behaviour because they knew full well their coffee could cause the kind of burns this woman experienced.
This is a great watch if you have access to it. It will change the way you see the justice system.
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Tims really does need to figure out how to make and hold tea. I agree with the two posters that said their experience has been that it's stupid hot. It usually is, but then there are times when it's almost cold.
Of the ~500 teas I've bought from Tims in the last few years, 400 were nuclear (wait 10 minutes to even sip), 50 were sip temp, and 50 were cold enough that I could have chugged it.
Add to that how crappy their lids are, and I have completely abandoned Tims as my place to get tea on the run. It's better to go to Macs. Not only do you have to get out of your car to go make your own tea, you also don't get a donut. It's better in many ways to go to Macs for tea.
This. Most places (Tims, Starbucks etc.) the drink is too hot to drink initially but many of them have lids that designed better than the piece of crap design that Tims uses.
I don't get how people still put up with this. I've stopped going to Tims because of their lids and inconsistent coffee yet people seem to ignore this, why? Cause their ads make you warm and fuzzy inside cause they have a maple leaf?
I used to go to Tims every day but at some point everyone has enough of getting coffee all over their car and hands. They're the only coffee place with this issue! How has it not been addressed yet???
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When I was in the patch, I would drink their coffee by the gallon: a) it comes in massive XLs, b) it is the only coffee-shop in the boonies besides 7-11, and c) I was very sleep-deprived most of the time, and lived on coffee.
After I re-entered civilization, I haven't walked into a Tims since. Pits of scum and villainy.
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And that they can't figure out that if you put the seam at the back, it doesn't drip. If you put it rotated 28 degrees from the opening, it is going to dribble all over you. Basic concept, but they never do it right.
Tims does have their Tea too hot, especially when you get a tea bag, not the steeped crap. I usually let it sit for about 20 minutes before I touch it.
On the one hand I have a lot of sympathy for the father, that must have been an awful experience to go through. But on the other hand, hot beverages in crappy containers, and multiple children, is a recipe for disaster. Not saying he's at fault here, but there's a lesson in it for parents, not just for hot beverage establishments.
Really, it amazes me that anyone who frequents Tim Hortons or Starbucks or similar establishments on a regular basis doesn't just keep a travel mug close at hand. Reduces waste, reduces spills, keeps your beverage at the temperature you want longer, often gives you a slight discount.
People always say the McDonald's burn was the worst of the frivolous lawsuits but her burns were significant and medical costs were high and the machines were defective.
My question here would be was the machine working properly otherwise yeah ta is hot.
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People made fun of that lady with the coffee at McDonald's years ago too, but when you hear just how serious her burns were you quickly realize that it was no laughing matter. She had third degree burns on her thighs and crotch, seriously major burns. McDonald's was found to have kept their coffee hotter than others to make it last longer too, all factors that worked against them when they decided to go to court against her. Bad move.
Reading this article it appears the boy was wearing pants and he still received what looks like a pretty serious burn. Will be interesting to see the follow up on this.
Edit: GGG and I on the same page.
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Read the McDonald's case though. She sued because of medical cost that McDonald's wasn't going to pay.
Government funded healthcare significantly reduces a need to sue.
McDonalds also knew how hot and dangerous the tea was too, they had hundreds of incidents they didn't do anything about, and this came about in the lawsuit.
Stupid attitudes like "the tea is hot" is how big businesses get away with harming people.
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I'm a tea drinker and I would say about 80% of the fast food/coffee shops use way too hot of water for their tea. I've been burned quite a number of times from small spills (nothing major, but it still stung), especially from places that have open spouts on their coffee cup lids. I'm not sure if they can't set the temp on their hot water taps or what, but if you can't drink your tea for the first 20 minutes, there's a problem.
I would be pretty pissed if they started making tea warmer. All I drink is tea and it has to be really hot for me to enjoy it. Maybe my tongue has been burnt so much that I'm now immune to hot tea but I can drink any tea from anywhere immediately.
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Same thing happened to me when I was 8 or 9 with McDonalds coffee (after they'd turned the temperatures down, thank god). Was holding on to it for my mother when we hit a pretty large speed bump coming out of the parking lot and half my lap ended up covered, while wearing cotton sweat pants that held and trapped the liquid against my leg. #### isn't funny, as I'd still rate it at as one of the most painful experiences that I've ever gone through.
About the only thing I can contribute on this is, if you are driving do not hand an incredibly hot beverage to your kid. Use a cup holder.
It is insanely hot. I have to order a coffee with my tea just to have something to drink while I wait 15 minutes for the tea to approach levels suitable for human consumption. And that's with cold milk added, I couldn't imagine what it'd be like with just water
Hot Coffee while very enlightening about the McDonalds case is a rather scary look at the legislative changes that business interests pushed in the last 20 years to make it harder for people to hold businesses accountable to their employees, customers.
It should be a must watch for those that think people are overzealous money grabbing idiots who sue companies. Of course a small minority are, but wow, the extent at which people's rights to get compensation have dramatically changed and the McDonalds case was intentionally used as propaganda to help legislation pass all over the US to protect businesses and screw over customers, and employees.
If you can't watch the documentary, check out this 10 min news story on it, which will make you hate humanity.
