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View Poll Results: When will the ring road be completed?
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1-3 years
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4-7 years
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10-20 years
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07-11-2016, 01:44 PM
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#2781
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2011
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I hope to use the SW ring road before I retire in 19 years, commuting from Signal Hill to Braeside area. With my luck, if it it done on time, I get transferred to a different location to like NE. Looking at VR footage, very exciting to see it get done.
I was getting used to 30km/h commute on Glenmore while listening to podcasts.
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07-11-2016, 02:04 PM
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#2782
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vtec260
I hope to use the SW ring road before I retire in 19 years, commuting from Signal Hill to Braeside area. With my luck, if it it done on time, I get transferred to a different location to like NE. Looking at VR footage, very exciting to see it get done.
I was getting used to 30km/h commute on Glenmore while listening to podcasts.
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Same for me but I'm not holding my breath. I need the final piece to be constructed for the road to be of any use to me (commute far NW to Chinook Mall area).
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07-11-2016, 03:09 PM
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#2783
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First Line Centre
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So is this road being built now? Actually getting built?
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07-11-2016, 03:59 PM
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#2785
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One of the Nine
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This is going to be so great for the SW, as well as the Tsuu Tina. I'm really happy that they're doing those developments. I think it will be hugely positive for the band and for the city. Not only will the band be creating income and jobs, but they will be creating a way for the band and the city to become real neighbours, instead of people that live next door to each other, but never interact.
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07-11-2016, 04:00 PM
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#2786
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In the Sin Bin
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The band thinks it's a good time to go heavy into commercial real estate in Calgary? I get the whole investing when it's cheap and I'm assuming they won't pay as much tax (if any?) on the commercial real estate but that market seems sooo oversaturated right now....
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07-11-2016, 04:26 PM
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#2787
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
The band thinks it's a good time to go heavy into commercial real estate in Calgary? I get the whole investing when it's cheap and I'm assuming they won't pay as much tax (if any?) on the commercial real estate but that market seems sooo oversaturated right now....
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Do you think it would be a better time to sink a lot into these projects when the market is booming and everything is more expensive? Or to put it another way, is there more risk to a project like that at this point in the market or when everything is riding high and oil is say $115/barrel?
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07-11-2016, 04:35 PM
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#2788
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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Commercial developments have worked out well for the Westbank First Nation (anecdotally), so I hope it turns out just as well for the Tsuu T'ina.
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07-11-2016, 04:45 PM
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#2789
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
Do you think it would be a better time to sink a lot into these projects when the market is booming and everything is more expensive? Or to put it another way, is there more risk to a project like that at this point in the market or when everything is riding high and oil is say $115/barrel?
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Like I said I understand the benefits of building in a recession, but considering there is what, 20 years worth of vacancy to be absorbed in the commercial real estate market right now? That seems optimistic to me.
I guess the developer is probably taking on a lot of the risk with them.
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07-11-2016, 04:54 PM
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#2790
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Well it's not going to be right now. The road is several years from being built, and it won't be done before then. And I'm sure these will be built in phases and evaluated as they go.
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07-11-2016, 05:05 PM
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#2791
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
Well it's not going to be right now. The road is several years from being built, and it won't be done before then. And I'm sure these will be built in phases and evaluated as they go.
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Ahh yeah good point. I guess I probably should've looked at the time line 
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07-11-2016, 05:49 PM
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#2792
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Franchise Player
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Ah yes, mega box stores, exactly what their ancestors had in mind when they secured the rights to the reserves to maintain their hunting, lands, and way of life.
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07-11-2016, 06:01 PM
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#2793
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One of the Nine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay
Ah yes, mega box stores, exactly what their ancestors had in mind when they secured the rights to the reserves to maintain their hunting, lands, and way of life.
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Yep, because trading pelts and furs are still a viable way of doing commerce, they should not be allowed to make any dollars.
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07-11-2016, 06:34 PM
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#2794
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay
Ah yes, mega box stores, exactly what their ancestors had in mind when they secured the rights to the reserves to maintain their hunting, lands, and way of life.
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A way of life that doesn't exist any longer.
If the First Nations do nothing with their land, people complain that they're lazy and just living on handouts from the government. If they want to take advantage of the realities of life in the 21st Century and put that land to use in a way that has greater value is today's world, people complain that they're not using the land the way it was intended to be used.
Treaty 7 was signed almost 140 years ago. Victoria was still the Queen of England at the time (and still had more than 2 decades left in her reign). Canada was only 10 years old. The first European settler had arrived in the Calgary area less than 5 years earlier. Fort Calgary was only 2 years old. The Canadian Pacific Railway wouldn't reach Calgary for another 5 years.
No one who signed the treaty could ever have imagined the world that exists today.
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07-11-2016, 09:10 PM
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#2795
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Did I see an amphitheater in that video? Like for small/medium summer outdoor concerts? If we could have a place that could host a few thousand, maybe 2000-5000 it'd be so amazing.
Please God let it be true. So badly needed.
Last edited by Cecil Terwilliger; 07-11-2016 at 09:15 PM.
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07-11-2016, 11:48 PM
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#2796
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Self Imposed Exile
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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07-12-2016, 12:08 AM
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#2797
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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I say we update the thread title... coming up on 3 years since the SE opened! 
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07-12-2016, 09:29 AM
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#2798
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazrim
Commercial developments have worked out well for the Westbank First Nation (anecdotally), so I hope it turns out just as well for the Tsuu T'ina.
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Two examples of some pretty successful ventures, and I believe the shopping complex in Lake Louise is also owned by the Sawridge band. There is much potential here if this is done right.
http://www.nkmipcellars.com/About-Us
http://www.sawridge.com/about-us/
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07-12-2016, 09:33 AM
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#2799
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Self Imposed Exile
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Lubicon
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I am very for this first nations development, other then some of our paths will now look over commercial districts.... which is too bad for us but not really their problem (even though the handout did include "natural view areas").
But, I have read in here they they will need to get the correct environmental impact studies and other studies done prior to development.
As a person who is truly ignorant on First Nation rights - is this true or just assumed? Can they bypass steps like an environmental assessment, or a traffic study on the impact to the ring road?
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07-12-2016, 10:09 AM
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#2800
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Mckenzie Towne
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Did I see an amphitheater in that video? Like for small/medium summer outdoor concerts? If we could have a place that could host a few thousand, maybe 2000-5000 it'd be so amazing.
Please God let it be true. So badly needed.
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Yea, looks like an amphitheater. Not 100%, but it looks like it'll be where the old Buffalo Run driving range was.
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