11 Dallas police officers shot by sniper at peaceful protest. 5 officers dead.

[Zulu29]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5...-aaron-bandler

Here's an article on police shootings against black civilians.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5...-aaron-bandler

Here's an article on police shootings against black civilians.

The Daily Wire? How about a non partisan source.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5...-aaron-bandler

Here's an article on police shootings against black civilians.

Ha ha ha. I'd never heard of that site before. It's a real winner. This is from their article about how the X-Men movies are really about the homos taking over:


"With the legalization of same-sex marriage was spreading throughout the land, even before the good faith celebrations had ended, the attacks on Christians began. The mainstream media, especially CNN (which is Hitler), were crucial tips of the spear in these attacks. Suddenly you could no longer believe homosexuality is a sin without being smeared as a bigot and homophobe."

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Ha ha ha. I'd never heard of that site before. It's a real winner. This is from their article about how the X-Men movies are really about the homos taking over:


"With the legalization of same-sex marriage was spreading throughout the land, even before the good faith celebrations had ended, the attacks on Christians began. The mainstream media, especially CNN (which is Hitler), were crucial tips of the spear in these attacks. Suddenly you could no longer believe homosexuality is a sin without being smeared as a bigot and homophobe."

Did we just find peter12's blog?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think the post you quoted is fallacious. It's funny how much it sounds like you, though.

It's not.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/160...protest/page/1

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Tribalism is an unchangeable part of human nature. It will always exist, greater so than racism. In fact, tribalism is the very thing that BREEDS racism, so my point is that you can't possibly point to identity politics as tribalism and say "we should stop that" and then point to racism and say "we can't stop that."

We can't completely overcome tribalism, which is a part of human nature. We can identify it in every form and condemn it. What I'm pointing out is how ferociously and piously we condemn some kinds of tribalism, while completely ignoring, or wholeheartedly indulging in, other kinds. When ultimately they come from the same source, and serve the same psychological purpose. Us vs Them. We the Good and Righteous. They the Stupid and Unclean. We the Oppressed and They the Oppressor. We who I defend. They who I attack.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Drak

The Daily Wire? How about a non partisan source.

I have no idea what the publications background is, just saw it on a FB feed.

Sounds pretty terrible given their X-Men reference

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Did we just find peter12's blog?

That was a very unnecessary ad hominem.

[PsYcNeT]

Beep boop does not compute. What is HUMOUR? *error* *error*

[FlamesAddiction]

Even if the data was correct and twice as many white people were shot by police than black people, it would still suggest that a black person would be more likely to be shot since they are less than 50% of the population in the US.

I think there probably is some truth though that a white officer shooting a black person is more likely to get attention than a black officer shooting a black person. I wonder what the real statistics are and if they even track that kind of thing.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Even if the data was correct and twice as many white people were shot by police than black people, it would still suggest that a black person would be more likely to be shot since they are less than 50% of the population in the US.

I think there probably is some truth though that a white officer shooting a black person is more likely to get attention than a black officer shooting a black person. I wonder what the real statistics are and if they even track that kind of thing.

There's also the issue that not all police forces actually report cases of officers using force, not even when that force proves to be deadly. There is no federal standard for police reporting their own officers' use of guns/tazers/batons/etc.

So even with the numbers as they are, they're inconclusive because how many police forces aren't reporting this information?

[afc wimbledon]

I don't think it matters if the innocent black guy gets shot by a black cop or a white cop, the issue is really most state and local police are little better than night club bouncers down there.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5...-aaron-bandler

Here's an article on police shootings against black civilians.

Absolute rubbish article.

[PostandIn]

nm

[Azure]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I don't think it matters if the innocent black guy gets shot by a black cop or a white cop, the issue is really most state and local police are little better than night club bouncers down there.

And that most of them have been armed way beyond what a police force should be.

Of course, that has gotten way worse under Obama, which is mind-boggling because he simply doesn't see it.

[T@T]

Spoiler for size

Spoiler!

Telling stats, there are about 1/3 more Latino's/Hispanic's in the U.S yet cops shoot them half as much.

I wish there were stats on illegal guns by race though.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by T@T

Telling stats, there are about 1/3 more Latino's/Hispanic's in the U.S yet cops shoot them half as much.

Here's the Post's "kept up to date" site:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...hootings-2016/

I find the "stories" section for this year and last year fascinating reading.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Absolute rubbish article.

Not much of an article as it's just a collection of stats, but are they wrong?

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Absolute rubbish article.

It's not about the article it's about the stats.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Us vs Them. We the Good and Righteous. They the Stupid and Unclean. We the Oppressed and They the Oppressor. We who I defend. They who I attack.

These are two completely different ideas and your grouping of them together under the banner of 'evil tribalism' is evidence of your lack of study or deep-thinking on the topic.

The fundamental thing you seem to be missing about what you deride as 'identity politics' is that those who participate in these movements are working to overcome the tribalism you so despise. The LGBT movement, Black Lives Matter, Feminism, are all coming from the premise that either gays, or blacks, or women have been excluded and deserve to be included.

When people say "Black Lives Matter" there is an unspoken too at the end of the statement. When the Pride parade marches, the implication is that LGBT people can be proud too. When Feminists point out rape culture and inequities they're saying women matter too.

If you truly believed that tribalism was the dangerous force you claim it to be, and you understood these movements at anything more than a pop-culture level, you would be a feminist, and a supporter of BLM, and march in the Pride parade.

You're fond of suggesting reading material, go read Between the World and Me, A Room of One's Own, and The Velvet Rage and see if anything changes.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

It's not about the article it's about the stats.

It's already been covered in this thread but these viral "black people aren't getting killed at a higher rate than other races" stats are ignoring that African Americans make up 13% of the US population.

"MORE WHITE PEOPLE ARE KILLED BY COPS THAN BLACK PEOPLE YOU IDIOTS" is stupid and disingenuous.