11 Dallas police officers shot by sniper at peaceful protest. 5 officers dead.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by peter12

Well, the Ferguson Riots were nothing compared to Detroit 1967. They called in the National Guard - a Guardsman was killed. More insanity ensued.

Although, I do think that 2016 is probably more analogous to 1968 than a lot of people want to admit. We are going through tumultuous times, and there are very real things at stake.

I believe the 1992 Rodney King riots were worse than both.

[doctajones428]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Yeah let's kill 7 billion people because of the crazies and extremists

Oh go away already. I seriously doubt he actually meant we are better off going extinct than deal with world problems, and you know that.

Also, people need to lay off with the "letting fear win" comments. I'm really sure the other guy isn't overly bothered about missing a trip to all mighty Idaho, nor thinks forgoing visits to the United States in the future will have much impact on his life. You guys make it sound like he's quitting his job and locking himself indoors to hide from the NRA monster. His kids are scared and they don't want to go, that's more than fair. When I was young I was scared of going to school for first the first couple weeks after Columbine. I had to go because, well, it was school, not an optional trip that won't mean much in the end. There's plenty of other places to go on vacation.

So just because you and I won't let incidents like this prevent us from going on optional visits to the States, it doesn't mean it's the wrong answer. I don't want to go to places like Iraq and Syria because of the extreme violence, does that make me a paranoid fear monger too? If you don't feel safe somewhere, why go if you don't need to?

[sureLoss]

and the tip of the iceberg

The Associated Press ‏@AP
BREAKING: Police say officers have been targeted in Tennessee, Georgia, Missouri in aftermath of police killings of black men.

The Associated Press @AP
BREAKING: Authorities: Man called 911 in south Georgia to report break-in, then ambushed, shot officer who came to investigate.

[Street Pharmacist]

Oh #### no

[Zulu29]

That country is falling apart...RIP to the members in Dallas and I hope for the best in these most recent shootings.

[shermanator]

This isn't going to help tensions. Texas Lt. Governor calls those who were protesting hypocrites.

"All those protesters last night, they turned around and ran the other way expecting the men and women in blue to protect them. What hypocrites!" an audibly emotional Patrick said.

http://beta.dallasnews.com/news/dall...53d939d13b8626

[taco.vidal]

Accurate description on his part.

Originally Posted by shermanator

This isn't going to help tensions. Texas Lt. Governor calls those who were protesting hypocrites.



http://beta.dallasnews.com/news/dall...53d939d13b8626

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

Accurate description on his part.

Do tell

[Robo]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Do tell

Did you listen to the video?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

and the tip of the iceberg

The Associated Press ‏@AP
BREAKING: Police say officers have been targeted in Tennessee, Georgia, Missouri in aftermath of police killings of black men.

The Associated Press @AP
BREAKING: Authorities: Man called 911 in south Georgia to report break-in, then ambushed, shot officer who came to investigate.

Copycat crimes aren't uncommon, unfortunately.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Robo

Did you listen to the video?

Of the hypocrites?

[taco.vidal]

You have dialup and cant watch the video or you want someone to transcribe it for you? Not sure what youre asking.

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Do tell

[Drak]

Sack of garbage Rush is now calling BLM a terrorist organization trying to further incite a race war.

[taco.vidal]

Originally Posted by Drak

Sack of garbage Rush is now calling BLM a terrorist organization trying to further incite a race war.

Its not just Rush. The nuts on either extreme arent gonna help.

Problem is that protests often attract those looking for trouble and theyre going to be associated with BLM.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Drak

Sack of garbage Rush is now calling BLM a terrorist organization trying to further incite a race war.

Well they have had protests where chant about wanting dead cops, give pigs wings and fry pigs in a blanket. Targeting the state and their personnel is terrorism no?

Edit: what is frustrating is that are legit protesters with legit concerns that will now get pushed aside thanks to a fanatical few.

[rubecube]

I'm not condoning the actions of the shooters, but what did people think the end result was going to be when years of police brutality combined with the digital age to expose just how often unnecessary lethal force was being used against blacks, with zero consequences for the offenders? When people lose faith in the justice system, they tend to take "justice" into their own hands. Unfortunately that always seems to result in vengeance and the deaths of innocent people.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I'm not condoning the actions of the shooters, but what did people think the end result was going to be when years of police brutality combined with the digital age to expose just how often unnecessary lethal force was being used against blacks, with zero consequences for the offenders? When people lose faith in the justice system, they tend to take "justice" into their own hands. Unfortunately that always seems to result in vengeance and the deaths of innocent people.

This is a standard "I'm not racist, but..." statement.

[afc wimbledon]

Isn't this the whole point of the second amendment, to allow citizens to fight the tyrannical state?

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by peter12

Well, the Ferguson Riots were nothing compared to Detroit 1967. They called in the National Guard - a Guardsman was killed. More insanity ensued.

Although, I do think that 2016 is probably more analogous to 1968 than a lot of people want to admit. We are going through tumultuous times, and there are very real things at stake.

I think one of the biggest problems in the US is the attitude from many white people that Racism Is Over. Racism hasn't really changed all that much--and it isn't all that long ago that states wouldn't even allow interracial marriage. Both of my parents were alive in 1968--my father was out of high school already. They're in their mid-60s. The Civil Rights movement wasn't some ancient event--many of the people who fought for (and against) that revolution are still alive today.

We haven't really changed that dramatically in 50 years.

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

Accurate description on his part.

The actual BLM movement isn't anti-police. It is anti-police brutality. No one is arguing about the police using deadly force on the shooter last night--clearly that force was warranted. When deadly force is necessary--that's one thing. But there are all too many instances of "shoot first, ask questions later" happening with police in the US right now.

No one wants to stop the police from doing their actual job--stopping criminals and protecting those in their jurisdiction--but by the same token, the belief is that those officers can still do their job without so regularly resorting to deadly force.

And really--do you honestly want a bunch of civilians running toward an active gunman?

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Isn't this the whole point of the second amendment, to allow citizens to fight the tyrannical state?

Hit the nail on the head. This is what the Second Amendment looks like in action, NRA. This man feels that the police in this country are a tyrannical force that he needed to protect himself from. Thus he used his weapons to make the point.

NRA/2A types would never admit it, but the only difference between this and the Bundy crew is that this guy actually fired shots and didn't just threaten. Bundy's men also had weapons trained on law enforcement to demonstrate their 2A rights.

[taco.vidal]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...f4dd1bce3.html

BALLWIN • A Ballwin Police officer was in critical condition after he was shot in the neck during a traffic stop late Friday morning, police said.

The male officer had stopped the car for speeding on northbound New Ballwin Road about 11 a.m., police said. As the officer went back to his car, the driver got out, "advanced quickly" and fired three shots at the officer, police said.

Said St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar: "Make no mistake, we believe that Ballwin officer was ambushed."

St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch agreed.

"It was clearly an ambush, an attack," he said. "There was no confrontation, no argument, no nothing."

Antonio Taylor, of St. Louis, was charged in the shooting of a Ballwin police officer. This is a mug shot from a court case in Oklahoma.