Ongoing Terrorism/ISIS/al Qaeda Thread

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I should have posted here instead of the Turkey airport thread. It has been a pretty crazy week for terrorist activity. Turkey airport attack, Bangladesh attack on Friday, Baghdad on Sunday and Saudi Arabia today (3 or 4 different attacks.)

Isis took a huge hit evacuating from Fallujah, hundreds of vehicles and occupants blown up by the U.S., my guess is they activated every plot they had in the works as retribution.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Isis took a huge hit evacuating from Fallujah, hundreds of vehicles and occupants blown up by the U.S., my guess is they activated every plot they had in the works as retribution.

That is the general sentiment I'm seeing in the news right now. ISIS is increasing their activities right now because of the recent losses they have had (land, equipment and personnel.) There seems to be a lot of tension and very high levels of security at the major 4th of July celebration today in the USA.

[nik-]

Some sweet Saudi blowback.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

151 dead in Baghdad, and not even a mention on this site.

Not an indictment of the people here, but an observation of how common these attacks have become, and therefore how desensitized people are nowadays.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle30739014/

Predominantly shia neighborhood with some christians, death toll now up to 250.

Perspective: oklahoma city bombing killed 168

[nik-]

Originally Posted by T@T

Predominantly shia neighborhood with some christians, death toll now up to 250.

Perspective: oklahoma city bombing killed 168

Where are you seeing that number? Highest I've seen is 165.

[Dan02]

cnn and aljezeera both were reporting earlier 200 deaths with more still being pulled from the rubble.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by nik-

Where are you seeing that number? Highest I've seen is 165.

CNN reporter in Baghdad mentioned 250 with even more missing.

[CroFlames]

I thought it was 151 dead and 35 missing. Either way, it's a terribly large number.


This thread reminds me how primitive a large number of humans are. Sometimes I think about human achievements over the centuries and I am simply amazed how advanced the species is. Then I read about the constant senseless killings and hardship of oppressed peoples around the world and I can't help but think that we are still primitives. And that is depressing.

Humans killing other humans is just such an abomination. It's like an affront to the nature of things. We have a brain, reason, and language. Use that to fix your problems.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I should have posted here instead of the Turkey airport thread. It has been a pretty crazy week for terrorist activity. Turkey airport attack, Bangladesh attack on Friday, Baghdad on Sunday and Saudi Arabia today (3 or 4 different attacks.)

Has to do with Ramadan. The extremists see an increased opportunity to hit large crowds and increase overall suffering during a holiday. Ramadan also has religious significance to extremists as a time for jihad:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36703874

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

This thread reminds me how primitive a large number of humans are. Sometimes I think about human achievements over the centuries and I am simply amazed how advanced the species is. Then I read about the constant senseless killings and hardship of oppressed peoples around the world and I can't help but think that we are still primitives. And that is depressing.

Humans killing other humans is just such an abomination. It's like an affront to the nature of things. We have a brain, reason, and language. Use that to fix your problems.

We have been - violence has been trending down for centuries. And it isn't oppressive societies that are most dangerous, but anarchic ones. You need to read this book:

The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

We have been - violence has been trending down for centuries. And it isn't oppressive societies that are most dangerous, but anarchic ones. You need to read this book:

The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined

I don't disagree at all violence has been tending down.

What I'm saying is that it's appalling that in this day and age, people are still killing each other for religion, and societies still execute criminals.

I guess my expectation for humanity is that given how much we've collectively achieved, we'd be past all this nonsense by now.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I guess my expectation for humanity is that given how much we've collectively achieved, we'd be past all this nonsense by now.

"Out of the crooked timber of humanity no straight thing was ever made.”

- Kant

[FlameOn]

Before/After at the car bombing site.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I don't disagree at all violence has been tending down.

What I'm saying is that it's appalling that in this day and age, people are still killing each other for religion, and societies still execute criminals.

I guess my expectation for humanity is that given how much we've collectively achieved, we'd be past all this nonsense by now.

Until world leaders grow some balls and expose religion as a stupid thing to follow people will still die in it's name.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by T@T

Until world leaders grow some balls and expose religion as a stupid thing to follow people will still die in it's name.

That is a bit rash. Jesus Christ didn't go around leading armies into battle during holy months of jihad. Pretty peaceful message from Him.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

That is a bit rash. Jesus Christ didn't go around leading armies into battle during holy months of jihad. Pretty peaceful message from Him.

No, you're being way too polite.

It was a dumb f__king comment attempting to advance a (religiously) fanatical anti-religion agenda. Zero tolerance for broad brushed prejudice.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

That is a bit rash. Jesus Christ didn't go around leading armies into battle during holy months of jihad. Pretty peaceful message from Him.

Plenty of battles have been led in the name of Christianity.

That being said freedom of thought requires tolerance towards religion.... Until it infringes upon the rights of others. Then the state needs to step in.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

That is a bit rash. Jesus Christ didn't go around leading armies into battle during holy months of jihad. Pretty peaceful message from Him.

almost any message can be twisted.

[nik-]

Yeah, "god with us" is a little different than killing in the name of religion. That's basically the equivalent of "break a leg".

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by nik-

Yeah, "god with us" is a little different than killing in the name of religion. That's basically the equivalent of "break a leg".

Sure... Whatever you say... Nazi!