07-01-2016, 12:40 AM
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#101
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
How long is he out for?
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He probably just read the bottom of the camp roster table that sureLoss posted where it states Mangiapane and Prybil are out with injury. 
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07-02-2016, 01:29 PM
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#102
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Anyone know if Pavel Karnaukhov is hurt? Or, why he is not coming?
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07-02-2016, 01:30 PM
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#103
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom
Anyone know if Pavel Karnaukhov is hurt? Or, why he is not coming?
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He's gone to the KHL.
http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=887667
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07-02-2016, 01:35 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
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Hoo-hoo took his ball and went home.
I don't blame him though. He can still develop while actually collecting a paycheck.
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07-02-2016, 04:51 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantrader
Anyone find out yet why mangipane is not coming?
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Gluten overload.
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07-02-2016, 05:20 PM
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#106
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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No pribyl?
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07-02-2016, 05:21 PM
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#107
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
No pribyl?
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As mentioned earlier:
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Originally Posted by MyFlamesFirst
I thought Pribyl said he would attend camp also?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
He would attend, but his knee surgery will preclude him to on-ice sessions
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07-02-2016, 05:33 PM
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#108
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Pribyl might be the player I'm most excited to see come the main camp. Hope he shows some promise!
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07-02-2016, 06:20 PM
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#109
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Lifetime Suspension
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Rasmus Andersson @RAndersson19 2h2 hours ago
Finally in Calgary after a long flight! Excited for the week🙏✈️ #CofRed
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07-02-2016, 06:23 PM
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#110
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Rasmus Andersson @RAndersson19 2h2 hours ago
Finally in Calgary after a long flight! Excited for the week🙏✈️ #CofRed
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Kylington too:
Back in Calgary for a couple days! #yyc
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHXsDUyB...liverkylington
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07-02-2016, 06:28 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
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I can't be the only one who likes this week more for development camp than Stampede, can I?
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07-03-2016, 07:50 AM
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#112
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I wonder who has progressed more Andersson or Kylington. I heard Andersson was better in camp last year.someone will have to let us know this year
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07-03-2016, 08:22 AM
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#113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantrader
I wonder who has progressed more Andersson or Kylington. I heard Andersson was better in camp last year.someone will have to let us know this year
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I would say Andersson, as he appears to have improved his game in all aspects. Kylington was okay (considering his age) this year, and I hope he'll take a larger step forward this year.
Hopefully we see Andersson come to camp in better shape this year.
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07-03-2016, 11:13 AM
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#114
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Brayden Burke might be the most interesting prospect and probably the potential candidate for the Jones/Schneider "loophole" signing.
Was ranked 47th in Craig Button's final rankings.
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Really love if Flames sign this kid. Be like a bonus 3rd/4th rnd pick.
THW Draft Profile link here
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07-03-2016, 03:56 PM
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#115
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jun 2004
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This is a question that has been on my mind from time to time and would like your thoughts in terms of how teams/scouts think when they are drafting.
For example, Brayden Burke who is attending camp, went undrafted. However, he was the third leading scorer in the WHL with 109 points, seven more than Nolan Patrick, who is considered the top draft choice next year. Without looking at any other factors except physical size, Patrick at 6 3 195 lbs and Burke at 5 10 164 lbs.... does the size difference alone means one is a top prospect and the other one is not drafted at all? I don't understand why all 30 teams would pass on drafting the third leading scorer in the WHL? Thoughts?
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07-03-2016, 04:11 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMagicMan
This is a question that has been on my mind from time to time and would like your thoughts in terms of how teams/scouts think when they are drafting.
For example, Brayden Burke who is attending camp, went undrafted. However, he was the third leading scorer in the WHL with 109 points, seven more than Nolan Patrick, who is considered the top draft choice next year. Without looking at any other factors except physical size, Patrick at 6 3 195 lbs and Burke at 5 10 164 lbs.... does the size difference alone means one is a top prospect and the other one is not drafted at all? I don't understand why all 30 teams would pass on drafting the third leading scorer in the WHL? Thoughts?
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who knows... i've wondered the very same with Martin Jones. undrafted...
seems like it would be worth taking a flyer on Burke, if possible.
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07-03-2016, 04:19 PM
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#117
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Brayden Burke is 19 and 6 months already, so I guess the prevailing thought is his point totals aren't as impressive when he's playing against 15/16/17 year olds.
However 109 is hard to do regardless of age.
On his team alone (the Hurricanes), he had older teammates that had much worse point totals, like:
Ryley Lindgren, 50 points
Justin Gutierrez, 49 points
Tyler Wong, 89 points
Carter Folk, 31 points
Cory Millette, 64 points - 2 years older than Burke.
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07-03-2016, 04:33 PM
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#118
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMagicMan
This is a question that has been on my mind from time to time and would like your thoughts in terms of how teams/scouts think when they are drafting.
For example, Brayden Burke who is attending camp, went undrafted. However, he was the third leading scorer in the WHL with 109 points, seven more than Nolan Patrick, who is considered the top draft choice next year. Without looking at any other factors except physical size, Patrick at 6 3 195 lbs and Burke at 5 10 164 lbs.... does the size difference alone means one is a top prospect and the other one is not drafted at all? I don't understand why all 30 teams would pass on drafting the third leading scorer in the WHL? Thoughts?
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It is his size and his age. This is the second time he has been passed over in the draft.
To put things into perspective Burke put up 34 points in 41 games during his initial draft year.
Patrick put up 102 points in 72 games one season prior to his draft year. Without a doubt if he stays healthy, he will improve on these totals next year for his draft.
Nolan Patrick= Big skilled center that will put up massive numbers in his draft year. Even as a 16 year old he was over point per game in the WHL.
Brayden Burke= Small, diminutive winger who has only put up big numbers as an overrage player. Lots of these points also came on the powerplay. Lethbridge had the best powerplay in the league.
Personally, I think Burke is a good gamble to take. If he impresses in camp, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Flames sign him. In comparison to Nolan Patrick though it's not even close. You could make the argument that Patrick as a 16 year old was just as good as Burke is now as a 19 year old.
Also to my point. If you go through history and look up the top scorers in the WHL, the list is usually filled with overage players at the top that have gone on to do very little if anything in the NHL.
2009-2010 - Brandon Kozun 107 points
2008-2009 - Casey Pierro-Zabotel 115 points
2007-2008 - Mark Santorelli 101 points
The odds that Burke ends up being like one of these guys is much higher than him becoming a legitimate NHL player.
Last edited by bax; 07-03-2016 at 04:57 PM.
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07-03-2016, 04:51 PM
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#119
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Draft Pick
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When you watch Burke play, he's a very perimeter oriented player that is small - most likely even smaller than his listed measurements and plays small. As mentioned, many pp points - dont see him making nhl, but might be worth a flyer.
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07-03-2016, 05:15 PM
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#120
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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