2016-17 Standing predicitons

[Par]

Here are mine, what are yours?

Ottawa in 2nd? Oilers winning? Looool

Metro:
1. Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3. Islanders
4. Rangers
5. Flyers
6. Devils
7. Carolina
8. CBJ


Atlantic
1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Montreal
4. Buffalo
5. Boston
6. Detroit
7. Ottawa
8. Toronto

Central.
1. Dallas
2. Chicago
3. St. Louis
4. Nashville
5. Winnipeg
6. Wild
7. Avs


Pacific(the top 3 are changeable).
1. Kings
2. Ducks
3. Sharks
4. Calgary
5. Vancouver
6. Edmonton
7. Arizona

[fire_starter]

No way ducks are going to be as good with a goon for a coach. I think they regress. Flames should be in the 3 spot.

[Par]

Originally Posted by fire_starter

No way ducks are going to be as good with a goon for a coach. I think they regress. Flames should be in the 3 spot.

They have good pieces and I think they will be up there.

[TheScorpion]

Metropolitan:

1. Penguins
2. Capitals
3. Rangers
4. Islanders
5. Devils
6. Flyers
7. Hurricanes
8. Blue Jackets

Atlantic:

1. Lightning
2. Panthers
3. Sabres
4. Canadiens
5. Red Wings
6. Bruins
7. Maple Leafs
8. Senators

Central:

1. Stars
2. Blues
3. Blackhawks
4. Predators
5. Jets
6. Wild
7. Avalanche

Pacific:

1. Sharks
2. Flames
3. Ducks
4. Kings
5. Coyotes
6. Canucks
7. Oilers

[Par]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Metropolitan:

1. Penguins
2. Capitals
3. Rangers
4. Islanders
5. Devils
6. Flyers
7. Hurricanes
8. Blue Jackets

Atlantic:

1. Lightning
2. Panthers
3. Sabres
4. Canadiens
5. Red Wings
6. Bruins
7. Maple Leafs
8. Senators

Central:

1. Stars
2. Blues
3. Blackhawks
4. Predators
5. Jets
6. Wild
7. Avalanche

Pacific:

1. Sharks
2. Flames
3. Ducks
4. Kings
5. Coyotes
6. Canucks
7. Oilers

Don't think that the Oilers finish last.

[Textcritic]

Sharks are a bubble team, the Oilers are in the bottom two, and the Flames are in the top three.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Do they have to be standing predictions or can I do mine sitting down?

[Par]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Do they have to be standing predictions or can I do mine sitting down?

Anyway you like.

[Par]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Sharks are a bubble team, the Oilers are in the bottom two, and the Flames are in the top three.

Please provide an explanation, why you think this?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Par

Please provide an explanation, why you think this?

No.

[Da_Chief]

This is the year when the power in the Pacific starts shifting; Ducks/Kings/Sharks slide. Flames/Coyotes/Oilers take a step forward.

The Pacific is not a given to California anymore. Any combination with Canucks being last is possible.

[N-E-B]

Pacific

1. San Jose
2. Calgary
3. Anaheim
4. Edmonton
5. Los Angeles
6. Arizona
7. Vancouver

Central

1. Nashville
2. Dallas
3. Chicago
4. St. Louis
5. Minnesota
6. Winnipeg
7. Colorado

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Boston
4. Buffalo
5. Detroit
6. Montreal
7. Toronto
8. Ottawa

Metropolitan

1. Capitals
2. Penguins
3. Islanders
4. Rangers
5. Devils
6. Hurricanes
7. Flyers
8. Blue Jackets

[ComixZone]

Metro
1. Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3. Islanders
4. Devils
5. Flyers
6. Rangers
7. Carolina
8. CBJ


Atlantic
1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Buffalo
4. Toronto
5. Montreal
6. Boston
7. Ottawa
8. Detroit

Central
1. Nashville
2. Chicago
3. Dallas
4. Winnipeg
5. St. Louis
6. Avs
7. Wild


Pacific
1. Kings
2. Calgary
3. Edmonton
4. Sharks
5. Ducks
6. Arizona
7. Vancouver

[Da_Chief]

Taking some projected lineups from HF.

Kings - One good O line + Kopi, 2 good D pairs, Proven starter.
Gaborik-Kopitar-Purcell
Pearson-Carter-Toffoli
King-Lewis-Brown
Clifford-Latta-Nolan
*Andreoff, Dowd, Shore, Mersch

McNabb-Doughty
Muzzin-Martinez
Scuderi-Gilbert
*Greene, Trotman, Gravel, Forbort

Quick
Zatkoff

Ducks - Offense is weaker then ever before, D is good, goaltending has a lot to prove.
Ritchie-Getzlaf-Perry
Cogliano-Kesler-Silfverberg
Noesen-Rakell-Kerdiles
Garbutt-Thompson-Wagner

Fowler-Despres
Lindholm-Manson
Bieksa-Vatanen

Gibson
Tokarski

Oilers - Lots of offensive potential, top D is respectable then it falls off, goalies are better then average.
Lucic - McDavid - Yakupov
Pouliot - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Maroon - Draisaitl - Puljujarvi
Hendricks - Letestu - Kassian
Extras: Lander & Pakarinen

Klefbom - Larsson
Sekera - Fayne
Davidson - Nurse
Extra: Oesterle

Talbot
Gustavsson

Canucks - Old first line, 2nd line has potential, average top 4, average goaltending.
Sedin Sedin Eriksson
Baertschi Horvat Sutter
Etem Granlund Hansen
Burrows Guance Dorsett

Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Tryamkin Larsen

Miller
Markstrom

Sharks - Great offence, very good top 4, good starter.
Hertl - Thornton - Pavelski
Boedker - Couture - Donskoi
Goldobin - Marleau - Ward
Nieto - Tierney - Karlsson
Wingels


Vlasic - Braun
Martin - Burns
Dillon - Schlemko
DeMelo

Jones
Dell

Coyotes - Good mix of youth and vets on O, top 4 looks one of the better ones, goaltending struggeles
Domi-Hanzal-Duclair
Rieder-Strome-Doan
McGinn-Vermette-???
Martinook-Richardson-???

OEL-Murphy
Goligoski-Stone
Connauton-Michalek
Dahlbeck

Smith/Domingue

Flames - Offence can score but has to be more then one line, D is decent, G has been upgraded.
Gaudreau-Monahan-Brouwer
Shinkaruk-Bennett-Frolik
Stajan-Backlund-Chiasson
Ferland-Bouma-Hathaway
Hamilton

Giordano-Brodie
Kevin-Hamilton
Wideman-Engelland
Wotherspoon

Elliott
Johnson

I prediction:
1. Sharks
2. Flames
3. Ducks
4. Oilers
5. Kings
6. Coyotes
7. Canucks

[Imported_Aussie]

San Jose may have a regression back to earth this year - long playoff runs can do that to western teams.
Anaheim is weaker
LA is weaker
Arizona should improve, but goaltending is questionable
Oilers will improve (shudder) but defence is questionable, as is ability to play a fast paced game
Vancouver is no better or worse - Eriksson is a good player, but that team is like the pre-rebuild flames
Calgary has addressed goaltending, question mark on secondary scoring, but should improve

It is a tough year to predict the pacific, as there is no longer a clear standout

1. Flames
2. Sharks
3. Coyotes
4. Ducks
5. Oilers
6. Kings
7. Canucks

But separation between 1-6 will be very small


As for the rest

Central
1. Dallas
2. Chicago
3. Nashville
4. St. Louis
5. Minnesota
6. Winnipeg
7. Colorado

Atlantic
1. Lightning
2. Panthers
3. Habs
4. Sabres
5. Red Wings
6. Bruins
7. Senators
8. Leafs

Metro
1. Penguins
2. Capitals
3. Flyers
4. Islanders
5. Rangers
6. Blue Jackets
7. Devils
8. Hurricanes

slightly controversial picks that Rangers and Red Wings start to slide

[Par]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Taking some projected lineups from HF.

Kings - One good O line + Kopi, 2 good D pairs, Proven starter.
Gaborik-Kopitar-Purcell
Pearson-Carter-Toffoli
King-Lewis-Brown
Clifford-Latta-Nolan
*Andreoff, Dowd, Shore, Mersch

McNabb-Doughty
Muzzin-Martinez
Scuderi-Gilbert
*Greene, Trotman, Gravel, Forbort

Quick
Zatkoff

Ducks - Offense is weaker then ever before, D is good, goaltending has a lot to prove.
Ritchie-Getzlaf-Perry
Cogliano-Kesler-Silfverberg
Noesen-Rakell-Kerdiles
Garbutt-Thompson-Wagner

Fowler-Despres
Lindholm-Manson
Bieksa-Vatanen

Gibson
Tokarski

Oilers - Lots of offensive potential, top D is respectable then it falls off, goalies are better then average.
Lucic - McDavid - Yakupov
Pouliot - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Maroon - Draisaitl - Puljujarvi
Hendricks - Letestu - Kassian
Extras: Lander & Pakarinen

Klefbom - Larsson
Sekera - Fayne
Davidson - Nurse
Extra: Oesterle

Talbot
Gustavsson

Canucks - Old first line, 2nd line has potential, average top 4, average goaltending.
Sedin Sedin Eriksson
Baertschi Horvat Sutter
Etem Granlund Hansen
Burrows Guance Dorsett

Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Tryamkin Larsen

Miller
Markstrom

Sharks - Great offence, very good top 4, good starter.
Hertl - Thornton - Pavelski
Boedker - Couture - Donskoi
Goldobin - Marleau - Ward
Nieto - Tierney - Karlsson
Wingels


Vlasic - Braun
Martin - Burns
Dillon - Schlemko
DeMelo

Jones
Dell

Coyotes - Good mix of youth and vets on O, top 4 looks one of the better ones, goaltending struggeles
Domi-Hanzal-Duclair
Rieder-Strome-Doan
McGinn-Vermette-???
Martinook-Richardson-???

OEL-Murphy
Goligoski-Stone
Connauton-Michalek
Dahlbeck

Smith/Domingue

Flames - Offence can score but has to be more then one line, D is decent, G has been upgraded.
Gaudreau-Monahan-Brouwer
Shinkaruk-Bennett-Frolik
Stajan-Backlund-Chiasson
Ferland-Bouma-Hathaway
Hamilton

Giordano-Brodie
Kevin-Hamilton
Wideman-Engelland
Wotherspoon

Elliott
Johnson

I prediction:
1. Sharks
2. Flames
3. Ducks
4. Oilers
5. Kings
6. Coyotes
7. Canucks

Hey there Chief, you don't Tkachuk, in your lineup, you don't think he will make the team?

[Da_Chief]

Send him back. Let him be the man in London next year. Now if he forces his way onto the team then sure, otherwise if he's just ok, not bad in training camp then let him go back.

Plus I want to see Shinkaruk being given the opportunity to succeed, lotsa skill and determination in that boy too.

[Par]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Send him back. Let him be the man in London next year. Now if he forces his way onto the team then sure, otherwise if he's just ok, not bad in training camp then let him go back.

Plus I want to see Shinkaruk being given the opportunity to succeed, lotsa skill and determination in that boy too.

Thank for the quick reply and very good answer.

The bolded part is very true.

[YYC in LAX]

I've got the Flames winning the President's Trophy and the Cup.

[Cantrader]

My lineup prediction is close to the one listed. But not sure about hunter on 2nd line. Who is kevin with Hamilton? Is that Jyri? I would say Wideman has to be 2nd pairing by deadline to keep his trade value up.