So I decided to google petrochemical diversification and the first thing that came up was the NDP's recently announced Petrochemicals Diversification Program. Thanks NPD (no, really)!
F the rest of Canada right now. They seem to be entirely satisfied that this province is crashing.
Apparently the whole carbon tax, we're so much more environmentally friendly under the NDP strategy is failing badly. BC doesn't want out pipelines, Ontario dosen't want them.
We need to find income elsewhere. I think that we need to tariff any goods not made in Alberta.
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I think it's time to take a hard look at a pipeline through to Churchill, more challenges but Sask and Manitoba seem to be the only friends to Alberta.
Also time to get tougher on BC , first thing Alberta should do is work with local native groups to get their Site C Dam project shut down.
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I think it's time to take a hard look at a pipeline through to Churchill, more challenges but Sask and Manitoba seem to be the only friends to Alberta.
Also time to get tougher on BC , first thing Alberta should do is work with local native groups to get their Site C Dam project shut down.
At this point we've tried nice and doing what we're told which is just stupid. But now we have to find a way to teach these idiots that we're not just going to lie down and take their BS.
Notley had it right when she said that we wouldn't buy electricity from BC, now she needs to find another thing that can punch BC in the face with.
Because all of this BS the strategy that these environmental policy changes would allow these other provinces to approve our pipelines turned out to be completely wrong. We showed them the softer side of Sears and they wiped their a%%es with it.
In the carbon tax that Notley is putting into place goods transported from other provinces are exempt from the tax putting Alberta goods at a disadvantage in the market place. Its time to change that.
And gouge the s$$$ out of it.
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Last edited by CaptainCrunch; 07-01-2016 at 11:37 AM.
I think the point of the appeal court overturn is that industry dropped the ball.
The court admitted that the fed engagement requirements were almost minimal for this mega project. Yet actual engagement still fell far short of what was specified by the feds
And the kicker: two of the judges on the appeal court were appointed by Harper's government.
Even the conservatives on the appeal court saw this effort dropped the ball.
At this point we've tried nice and doing what we're told which is just stupid. But now we have to find a way to teach these idiots that we're not just going to lie down and take their BS.
Notley had it right when she said that we wouldn't buy electricity from BC, now she needs to find another thing that can punch BC in the face with.
Because all of this BS the strategy that these environmental policy changes would allow these other provinces to approve our pipelines turned out to be completely wrong. We showed them the softer side of Sears and they wiped their a%%es with it.
In the carbon tax that Notley is putting into place goods transported from other provinces are exempt from the tax putting Alberta goods at a disadvantage in the market place. Its time to change that.
And gouge the s$$$ out of it.
Agree , and just to be clear I don't just think we shouldn't take their electricity, I think Notely should led try to get the entire thing shut down , they will be affecting the peace river on the Alberta side of the boarder. I think it needs to get re-assessed on how it will negatively affect Alberta and the project should be put on ice until that's determined.
I think it's time to take a hard look at a pipeline through to Churchill, more challenges but Sask and Manitoba seem to be the only friends to Alberta.
Also time to get tougher on BC , first thing Alberta should do is work with local native groups to get their Site C Dam project shut down.
Churchill would be great but I think Hudson Bay freezes up a lot and the Canadian Coast Gaurd would need some new ice breakers. The European markets aren't as attractive as Asian markets but being able to ship our oil out would be great either way.
I think it's time to take a hard look at a pipeline through to Churchill, more challenges but Sask and Manitoba seem to be the only friends to Alberta.
Also time to get tougher on BC , first thing Alberta should do is work with local native groups to get their Site C Dam project shut down.
Unfortunately, Churchill port is only open a short part of the year due to ice, I think.
I think it's time to take a hard look at a pipeline through to Churchill, more challenges but Sask and Manitoba seem to be the only friends to Alberta.
Also time to get tougher on BC , first thing Alberta should do is work with local native groups to get their Site C Dam project shut down.
Just tarif anything coming through Alberta that's not from/for Saskatchewan or Manitoba.
Agree , and just to be clear I don't just think we shouldn't take their electricity, I think Notely should led try to get the entire thing shut down , they will be affecting the peace river on the Alberta side of the boarder. I think it needs to get re-assessed on how it will negatively affect Alberta and the project should be put on ice until that's determined.
I hope the dam does happen. The bc government knows they wasted billions on it and don't have a market for it. It's a fail on the bc governments part and the residents of bc know it and are paying for it. Why give them an out and blame Alberta while doing it?
I still think there is a huge market for our own oil IN Canada. Energy East needs to go ahead right now. Natural gas as well could be driven home a lot more. Such a cheap, abundant fuel source available in country and not everyone can get it? Even in Manitoba with our cheap hydro people are still stuck using propane. We would kill to get some natural gas lines run in.
We also need to get ahead of the game in developing oil for other uses besides as a fuel source. If we could work together as a country there is no reason we couldn't be pouring billions into research for petrochemicals.
Ontario doesn't want that for god knows what reason unless we bribe them with a ton of gas. They're content to buy oil from foreign countries and have it shipped by tankers.
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I just don't think people in other jurisdictions think too much about oil and gas, or care. I think they are mostly ignorant about their energy consumption and how much they actually consume, as individuals, and their jobs aren't directly linked to it. Then when they hear about 'pipelines' it's a very negative reaction because the only thing that hits the media are spills. It's not like the media publishes often about how successful pipelines really have been. And people are just ignorant, and politicians pander to these ignorant people.
Energy is only 10% of Canada's GDP. It sucks, but in Alberta we just don't have the numbers from a critical mass to the economy perspective nor population perspective. Regardless, it still stings the Canadian economy but not to the level most Albertans may be led to believe. And I'm not justifying the double standards, complete bull#### of the rest of Canada basically sticking their noses up at Alberta and acting superior when they aren't, I'm just saying. We probably think it's more important than it is because we live it and many of us work in it.
Think about if you lived in Ontario, and somebody came to you and said do you support pipelines? You work at a box factory or some stupid #### and you don't even know anything about oil and gas or even what your energy consumption level is at. You'd probably think hmmm... do we need a major polluting thing out there? I guess Albertans might lose jobs. Oh well, I won't. Nah, no pipeline. Don't care really, whatever.
