[Signing] Flames sign Brouwer (4 yrs, $4.5mil AAV, NTC)

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Par

Good signing, if you want Johnny to go to war against Lucic, Maroon, or Kassian, or Nurse, then you need Brouwer. #### the Oilers are tougher than us.

I still want to see us sign Martin as well.

[Par]

Originally Posted by Apollo

Here's how I see our lineup. Brouwer mentioned wanting to mentor and help develop Bennett. He will be a good vet presence on our team. I see Tkachuk-Bennett-Brouwer on the same line and punishing the other team. Bouma is reportedly on the trading Block. Assuming he gets traded, Ferland would take over his position. I see Jankowski making the team and Stajan being a backup or helping guys development in Stockton.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Frolik
Shinkaruk-Backlund-Chiasson
Tkachuk-Bennett-Brouwer
Ferland/Bouma-Jankowski-Hathaway

Extra Stajan

Sorry if I am asking too much here but could someone, makes the lines for the Oilers and see how we compare against them because they are pissing me off and I am scared they maybe better than is.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Even Ricardo's dumb damn Grit Index would probably show they're not as far apart over an 82 game season as it sounds.

Well I'm sold, if the RGI says he's no good, its gotta be true

[CaptainCrunch]

I like that they're bringing in another strong leadership guy. I think this team needs this after last season.

I also like his motor, he played hard and tough every time I watched him play.

[cracher]

Sweet signing. Don't give a flying f what he's getting paid or for how long.

The last 2 signings signify a shift towards a more entertaining style. How many -22 degree Tuesday nights in February games have you sat in the dome wishing for players who would actually put a shoulder into the opponent? It's a problem when you crave a Denis Gauthier on the roster. So stoked for the season. F summer, bring on September.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by AC

For the record I assumed they were pretty good indicators when comparing players but then I saw this one and so much for that.

Originally Posted by Ashasx

consider QoC, ice time, etc.

consider the possum

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by browna

He's not a fan. Just someone trying to sound superior and authoritative on a message board and using supposed irrefutable statistics as the sole basis of any argument. Just decided to be the Flames roster that's he's chosen in fighting the battle with.

Questioning somebody's fandom because they don't like a signing is completely uncalled for.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Par

Bennett is still playing with not very talented players and Tkachuk is a LW not a RW.

Ferland and Brouwer have some talent.

Tkachuk has the smarts to play his off wing and his skill set is by far best suited for Gaudreau and Monahan with his elite hockey sense and high skill. But Monahan and Gaudreau can use any powerforward so Brouwer, Chiasson and Ferland are all possibilities as well.

If you like spreading out the scoring then I'd suggest

Gaudreau-Monahan-Brouwer
Tkachuk-Bennett-Chiasson
Ferland-Backlund-Frolik
Bouma-Stajan-Hathaway

Could be an interesting option.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Personally, I think the comparison of Glencross in 2015-16 to Brower in 2015-16 is telling:

Out of thanks, incredible post.

[Bourque's Twin]

Originally Posted by Par

Good signing, if you want Johnny to go to war against Lucic, Maroon, or Kassian, or Nurse, then you need Brouwer. #### the Oilers are tougher than us.

The Oilers aren't tougher than us. Brouwer, Engelland, Ferland, Bouma, Bollig, and Chiasson.

[Par]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I still want to see us sign Martin as well.

If some how we could get rid some of bottom 6, then I'd like him on this team.

[Erick Estrada]

Not a fan of the deal but at lest the term is okay.

[CASe333]

Brouwer career:

avg G: 0.245
avg Pts: 0.479
avg Hits: 2.53
avg Pim: 07.46

Lucic career:
avg G: 0.246
avg Pts: 0.614
avg Hits: 2.82
avg PIM: 1.32

Averages are per game. Basically we get a player who averages as many goals and close to as many hits as Lucic but is way less of a liability PIM wise. I am not arguing Brouwer > Lucic as points are in Lucic favor but for 1.5 million less and 4 years vs 7 I am very happy with the Brouwer signing.

[Par]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

The Oilers aren't tougher than us. Brouwer, Engelland, Ferland, Bouma, Bollig, and Chiasson.

Could you or someone makes the Oilers lineup please, I am at work and on my phone, which I should not be.

[Karl]

I don't like this but, whatever. Term is way too long. AAV is decent though.

[jg13]

Sorry if this has been mentioned yet, haven't had time to go through everything. But who did Brouwer play with this past year in STL? Was he playing a second or third line guy?

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by Par

Sorry if I am asking too much here but could someone, makes the lines for the Oilers and see how we compare against them because they are pissing me off and I am scared they maybe better than is.

Oh, look!!! An Oil fan in disguise.

[Cactus Jack]

I´m not crazy about the term of dollars, it´s another Frolik contract basically. I like Brouwer as 2nd/3rd liner but to me this screams that guys like Poirier, Klimchuk and perhaps even Shinkaruk aren´t ready and they aren´t really hopeful on them being ready soon. And to committ to 4 years, I just don´t know about this one....

[Da_Chief]

Of about 700 regulars NHLers from last year, over 200 were 30 years or older. Nearly 30%.

About 65 of the 700 were 34 and older. About 10%.

He is still motivated and still useful. We'll use him for his remainder good years and then he can move on.

Not a deal that takes him to 34+ years. So OK term.

I predicted 3.5, he got 4.5...The difference between that is sending Bollig to the minors (think about that) for cap hit purposes next year.

On to the good...
-Physical presence
-Will battle in the corners
-Create space for younger guys
-Provide leadership

It's a fair deal. Let's play some hockey now.

[AC]

Originally Posted by jg13

Sorry if this has been mentioned yet, haven't had time to go through everything. But who did Brouwer play with this past year in STL? Was he playing a second or third line guy?

17.97% he played with Fabbri and Stastny
12.12% Backes and Steen
10.44% Stastny and Steen