Where will Stamkos end up?

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by mdubz

With negotiations between Steven Stamkos and Tampa Bay not happening, all indications point to Stamkos testing free-agency and/or even being traded at the deadline.




Where do you predict Stamkos will end up after July 1?

I hope it's somewhere no one expects. Somewhere seemingly random like Carolina or Dallas or New Jersey.

[Gaudfather]

Despite how badly Detroit wants Stamkos, I don't think there is any doubt that he ends up in Toronto. While contract terms will likely be fairly close regardless of who he signs with, his endorsement value will be spectacularly higher in Toronto than any other market. That's why I 'm putting my money on the Leafs winning this one.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

How is Buffalo going to afford Ristolinen, Reinhart, and Eichel with the huge payday a that RoR and Stamkos will have (likey $20M combined cap hit)?

Risto will get his second contract this year, likely long-term somewhere in the $5 million-ish range (we have the cap space for this right now, along with a mega deal for Stamkos).

End of next season you have Gionta (4.25 million) and Franson (3.3 million) expiring and likely not re-signed. End of season after that you have Kane (5.25 mllion) and Gorges (3.9 million) expiring. So that's nearly $17 million in players easily replaced by cheaper options or even ELC guys like Guhle or Nylander before Eichel and Reinhart come up for new contracts. Players like Ennis or Moulson could be traded or bought out, or even left exposed in the expansion draft and potentially claimed. There's always ways to make room.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Gaudfather

Despite how badly Detroit wants Stamkos, I don't think there is any doubt that he ends up in Toronto. While contract terms will likely be fairly close regardless of who he signs with, his endorsement value will be spectacularly higher in Toronto than any other market. That's why I 'm putting my money on the Leafs winning this one.

No. It will not. This is such a tired myth.

Stamkos is already the #3 most highly compensated NHL player in endorsements. Sidney Crosby is #1, and earned $4.5 m in deals with Reebok, Gatorade, Rogers Communications, CCM, Tim Horton’s, Upper Deck, Verizon and Frameworth. Virtually all of the "big-money" endorsement deals are offered by national and multi-national corporations, and none of them seem to care where any individual player plays. How many local Toronto companies are going to be lining up to sign Stamkos to push product for +$1.0 m per year? He already has big deals from Nike, Bauer, Coca-Cola and Tissot watches. Are any of these companies going to suddenly pay him more money because he wears a Maple Leafs jersey? Will all the Ford dealers in Southern Ont. pool their resources to make Stamkos the highest earning NHL star? No way.

[darthma]

Not sure if repost but cherry has a sweet belligerent rant on why Stamkos will sign in Toronto. https://mobile.twitter.com/CoachsCor...503946752?s=08

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by darthma

Not sure if repost but cherry has a sweet belligerent rant on why Stamkos will sign in Toronto. https://mobile.twitter.com/CoachsCor...503946752?s=08

That was hard to read. I could literally feel Don getting older through my computer screen.

[Northendzone]

so this is a cut and paste from bob mccowans twitter feed (https://twitter.com/fadoobobcat):

Do the Leafs have a plan to pay Stamkos 3.5M in non-cap dollars per year thru marketing? Told the proposal has been vetted!

if this winds up happening then we are back to the good old days and I am guessing this loophole could not be closed until the next CBA - I am assuming that his agent figured this out

[Resolute 14]

McCown is an idiot. And that would be blatant cap circumvention. As in, not even a loophole. Sections 26.2 and 26.3 of the CBA make it pretty clear that the teams cant do things like this. At least, not in any fashion that leaves an evidence trail of course.

[SuperMatt18]

Has to be done like with Beckham and the L.A. Galaxy for it to work.

Adidas gave Beckham extra $$$ if he came to play for the MLS in the U.S.

Could somebody like Adidas (new manufacturer of NHL jerseys) be proposing the same thing to Stamkos right now?

[OutOfTheCube]

Yeah I have no idea how that would be allowed by the NHL.

Why stop there? Why not give the guy a $60 million 'marketing' contract and only pay him $1 million per year for the cap savings? Why can't Pegula ride up and give him a $10 million non-cap cash "gift"?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Has to be done like with Beckham and the L.A. Galaxy for it to work.

Adidas gave Beckham extra $$$ if he came to play for the MLS in the U.S.

Could somebody like Adidas (new manufacturer of NHL jerseys) be proposing the same thing to Stamkos right now?

The Clippers just got caught doing this in the NBA last year. They resigned DeAndre Jordan, but did so with promises he'd get some advertising money on the side. The punishment? A $250,000 fine which seems like a total joke and an easy fine to pay to get a top talent.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The Clippers just got caught doing this in the NBA last year. They resigned DeAndre Jordan, but did so with promises he'd get some advertising money on the side. The punishment? A $250,000 fine which seems like a total joke and an easy fine to pay to get a top talent.

The NHL's CBA calls for multi-million dollar fines and the loss of top draft picks, so being caught doing something like that in the NHL would theoretically carry a far greater penalty.

I say theoretically, because the NHL has already decided to ignore its own CBA for Lamourello's benefit at least once in the past.

[SuperMatt18]

Also would be hard to stop.

Hard to control if it's 3rd party company with no ties to the Leafs. If they approach a player who is UFA and say "We think your marketing potential in Toronto is much higher than in Tampa Bay, if you sign there we will add a couple million to your endorsement deal".

If that happens you can't really penalize the Leafs for it.

[Gaudfather]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

No. It will not. This is such a tired myth.

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This " tired myth" might not be so tired!

[doctajones428]

Wouldn't be shocked if he went to Dallas

[anyonebutedmonton]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Also would be hard to stop.

Hard to control if it's 3rd party company with no ties to the Leafs. If they approach a player who is UFA and say "We think your marketing potential in Toronto is much higher than in Tampa Bay, if you sign there we will add a couple million to your endorsement deal".

If that happens you can't really penalize the Leafs for it.

What if that company also has an interest in the leafs...

[Dr. Doom]

This is insane I realize...

But given today's Raymond buy-out it has me extra suspicious.

What if let's say we are having trouble signing Monahan? What if his demands are too high? What if there is something about him? What if someone like Brad and/or Burke simply has a real hankering to acquire a guy like Stamkos?

Is it possible we instead pull a rabbit out and get Stamkos?

I dunno I got a weird feeling Flames might be interested July 1st.

We all know Brad keeps his cards close...

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Gaudfather

This " tired myth" might not be so tired!

Yes, it is. Until something like this actually happens in the NHL—EVER, then it will remain a myth. Unlike the NBA scenarios there are no national corporations who will shell out enormous cash payments to a player on the basis of the team for which he plays.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

This is insane I realize...

But given today's Raymond buy-out it has me extra suspicious.

What if let's say we are having trouble signing Monahan? What if his demands are too high? What if there is something about him? What if someone like Brad and/or Burke simply has a real hankering to acquire a guy like Stamkos?

Is it possible we instead pull a rabbit out and get Stamkos?

I dunno I got a weird feeling Flames might be interested July 1st.

We all know Brad keeps his cards close...

They may or may not be interested in Stamkos, but that has nothing to do with Monahan. He will be signed soon.

[StrykerSteve]

Stamkos to Calgary would be... epic, to say the least. It's so not going to happen, lol.