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Old 06-27-2016, 05:00 PM   #1
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Flames Pavel Karnaukhov goes to the KHL

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#Flames prospect Pavel Karnaukhov will play in Russia with Central Red Army of the KHL this season, according to a @WHLHitmen press release.
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:00 PM   #2
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:01 PM   #3
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:09 PM   #4
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I don't really mind it. Not sure how it affects the Flames rights, however.

He can very well find more ice time than he may have had in Stockton, and the KHL is not a bad place to go and develop anyways. Who knows - this may end up being a good thing in the long run.
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:10 PM   #5
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Another failure for CHL-MHL imports.

Russians in the CHL just don't work.
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:15 PM   #6
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I don't really mind it. Not sure how it affects the Flames rights, however.
I believe, by going to the KHL, he is considered a defected player, so the clock doesn't move on the Flames rights while he's there.

They hold his rights for two years after his draft, last season was one year, so if he ever decides to come back to North America, the Flames will still own his pro rights for one year.


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Meh. He's a 5th Round draft pick of the Flames last year. Would be more concerned if he was drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round. Perhaps his camp thinks that by heading over to Russia to play for a year against men might boost his stock and give the Flames some incentive to give him a contract?

Just found this on flamesnation...

Karnaukhov needs to be signed by the Flames by June 1, 2017, or else he'll go back into the draft. Given his size and attributes (he's 6'3" and 200 pounds), he's probably going to get signed. If he gets signed prior to the end of 2016, his contract can slide a year due to it being signed the year he turned 19. (NOTE: This summary was from a posting on May 26 2016, getbak's thoughts on the clock not moving if he is a defected player would not be considered in this summary).

It will be interesting to see how things pan out for the kid.
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:23 PM   #9
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I believe, by going to the KHL, he is considered a defected player, so the clock doesn't move on the Flames rights while he's there.

They hold his rights for two years after his draft, last season was one year, so if he ever decides to come back to North America, the Flames will still own his pro rights for one year.


I think.
I'm not sure about this but if he just signs a 1 year deal and actually plays in the KHL this could be excellent for his development.
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:28 PM   #10
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I think this is good because it gives us more time to decide whether or not we want to even sign him? His play last year probably wasn't good enough to earn an NHL deal
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I believe, by going to the KHL, he is considered a defected player, so the clock doesn't move on the Flames rights while he's there.

They hold his rights for two years after his draft, last season was one year, so if he ever decides to come back to North America, the Flames will still own his pro rights for one year.


I think.
Out of thanks, but thanks for answering.

I think
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:36 PM   #12
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Another failure for CHL-MHL imports.

Russians in the CHL just don't work.
He is from Belarus.

Not a bad place for him to work on his game and make some money in the meantime. It may not mean his North American aspirations are over.
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:38 PM   #13
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I can't think of any previous examples of a European player who was drafted out of the CHL, but went to the KHL a year after he was drafted.

I know for players who are RFAs, their clocks don't move while they're in Russia. That's why the Flames still owned Ramo's rights when he came back from Russia, even though he had 7 years pro experience. The four years he played in Russia didn't count.

For players drafted from Russia who play in the KHL, the team holds their rights essentially forever (maybe only until the player turns 27 under the current CBA).
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I can't think of any previous examples of a European player who was drafted out of the CHL, but went to the KHL a year after he was drafted.

I know for players who are RFAs, their clocks don't move while they're in Russia. That's why the Flames still owned Ramo's rights when he came back from Russia, even though he had 7 years pro experience. The four years he played in Russia didn't count.

For players drafted from Russia who play in the KHL, the team holds their rights essentially forever (maybe only until the player turns 27 under the current CBA).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Calgary sign Ramo as a UFA out of the KHL? They didn't have his rights beforehand.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Calgary sign Ramo as a UFA out of the KHL? They didn't have his rights beforehand.
He was in the Rene Bourque deal that came with Cammy from Montreal
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Calgary sign Ramo as a UFA out of the KHL? They didn't have his rights beforehand.
His rights were traded to Calgary as part of the Camallerri for Bourque for
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That's what we get for someone who's name is apparently pronounced "Kar-na-hooha".
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That's what we get for someone who's name is apparently pronounced "Kar-na-hooha".
http://pronouncenames.com/search?name=Karnaukhov

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Old 06-27-2016, 07:04 PM   #19
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Probably a good thing, let him develop in the KHL for 2-3 years without using a contract spot on him. If he actually becomes a player then sign him.
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