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		|  06-23-2016, 02:15 PM | #5741 |  
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Keller over Tkachuk?
 
At 6?
 
Seriously? And no, not going to be well recieved here at all.
 
EDIT - Guess I can't speak for others, but I sure as hell am against it.
		 
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		|  06-23-2016, 02:16 PM | #5742 |  
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you made the right call at 6. props for having the conviction to go for it
		 
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		|  06-23-2016, 02:17 PM | #5743 |  
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			I would lose my #### if we made that pick at 6 without trading down, because I guarantee you GMs will be blowing up Treliving's phone about moving up for Tkachuk. Would absolutely lose my ####.
		 
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		|  06-23-2016, 02:22 PM | #5744 |  
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					Originally Posted by FCAV  Not sure how well the Flames pick will be received here, |  
Love it.
		 
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		|  06-23-2016, 02:24 PM | #5745 |  
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					Originally Posted by bigrangy  you made the right call at 6. props for having the conviction to go for it |  
Well received here too.
 
I think Keller is the 4th best plyer in this draft group. Just takes some courage to go for it. Bennett stays on the wing maybe?
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		|  06-23-2016, 02:37 PM | #5746 |  
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		| Frank Seravalli ✔ @frank_seravalli Chiarelli says there's maybe only 12 true No. 1 defencemen in the league, how hard it is to get one. He believes this draft only has No. 2s.
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Just another thing to think about
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		|  06-23-2016, 02:45 PM | #5747 |  
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			Great interview bu Steinberg with Button just now.
 Confirms PLD will be a winger, not a Center.  PLD admitted this in their interview and they agree.
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		|  06-23-2016, 02:47 PM | #5748 |  
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					Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm  Just another thing to think about |  
 Which for me is BS. Keith, Subban, Doughty, Karlsson, Weber, McDonagh, Ekblad(debatable, but close imo), Klingberg(same as Ekblad), Suter, Letang, Pietranglo, Josi, Byfuglien, OEL, Burns. Maybe add Gio, Brodie and Carlson as well.
 
They are all guys you could make a case for being number 1 defencemen. Some less than others, but I think the group is larger than 12 for sure. How many times do legit number 1 guys come around in a draft? 
 
Chiarelli is being an idiot. A number 2 guy that can cope fine on your top pairing is still a piece you need to have.
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		|  06-23-2016, 02:48 PM | #5749 |  
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					Originally Posted by StrykerSteve  Great interview bu Steinberg with Button just now.
 Confirms PLD will be a winger, not a Center.  PLD admitted this in their interview and they agree.
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 Interesting. Does that affect teams if PLD said the same to them? Because the thought was that Vancouver(and the Habs if they get the #4 pick from the Oilers) would take Dubois because he projects as a centre wasn't it? If he says he will be a winger, does he slide past Tkachuk and maybe even Brown?
		 
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		|  06-23-2016, 02:49 PM | #5750 |  
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					Originally Posted by StrykerSteve  Great interview bu Steinberg with Button just now.
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Hopefully this drops PLD down a little bit. 
Vancouver definitely needs a center (if they don't move their pick).
		 
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		|  06-23-2016, 02:51 PM | #5751 |  
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					Originally Posted by Gaskal  I would lose my #### if we made that pick at 6 without trading down, because I guarantee you GMs will be blowing up Treliving's phone about moving up for Tkachuk. Would absolutely lose my ####. |  
i'm not 100% convinced that Arizona wouldn't take Keller at 7. Their best hope long term at #2c is Dvorak, who's definitely not a sure thing.
 
I would be disappointed if we traded down to 8 for 38 and ended up losing Keller over it. However, Nylander would still be there so, eh, whatever, he's still great.
		 
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		|  06-23-2016, 02:51 PM | #5752 |  
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			Could see the Canucks easily leaning towards Brown or Juolevi in that case. I feel like the have labeled Center and Defense as the areas they are looking to bolster the most in their prospect base. 
 Montreal would still take him at #4 if they traded up IMO - they want him more because of the francophone aspect.
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		|  06-23-2016, 03:00 PM | #5753 |  
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					Originally Posted by JJ1532  Interesting. Does that affect teams if PLD said the same to them? Because the thought was that Vancouver(and the Habs if they get the #4 pick from the Oilers) would take Dubois because he projects as a centre wasn't it? If he says he will be a winger, does he slide past Tkachuk and maybe even Brown? |  
I think he might. And I wouldn't be surprised if the Canucks take Brown. 
 
If it's true that the Flames expect two of their top six to be available at 6, and judging by Button's comments to Steinberg, my guess is the Flames top six looks like this:
 
Matthews 
Laine 
Puljujarvi 
Tkachuk 
Brown 
Sergachev
		 
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		|  06-23-2016, 03:05 PM | #5754 |  
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					Originally Posted by CliffFletcher  I think he might. And I wouldn't be surprised if the Canucks take Brown. 
 If it's true that the Flames expect two of their top six to be available at 6, and judging by Button's comments to Steinberg, my guess is the Flames top six looks like this:
 
 Matthews
 Laine
 Puljujarvi
 Tkachuk
 Brown
 Sergachev
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Why no Dubois? He looks like a stud. The classic combo: size + skill = exactly what we're missing.
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		|  06-23-2016, 03:07 PM | #5755 |  
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					Originally Posted by FlameZilla  Why no Dubois? He looks like a stud. The classic combo: size + skill = exactly what we're missing. |  
 Read again. He said thats what he thinks the management will rank the top 6. He could well be right.
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		|  06-23-2016, 03:09 PM | #5756 |  
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			Is Keller really that good?
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		|  06-23-2016, 03:11 PM | #5757 |  
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					Originally Posted by Robo  Is Keller really that good? |  
He's very Gaudreau-like.
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		|  06-23-2016, 03:12 PM | #5758 |  
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					Originally Posted by JJ1532  Read again. He said thats what he thinks the management will rank the top 6. He could well be right. |  
Yes, I read it correctly the first time. Why would our management, who have consistently advocated finding players with size & skill, pass on one of the biggest skilled players in the draft? And not even have him in the top 6?
 
Edit: *I'm genuinely curious. Did I miss some vital piece of evidence which points to our scouts not being that high on Dubois? Seems crackers to me.
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		|  06-23-2016, 03:12 PM | #5759 |  
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					Originally Posted by Robo  Is Keller really that good? |  
yes. fantastic vision, fantastic skating, fantastic hockey sense, fantastic passing ability, good shot, but small. leads his team in scoring wherever he goes, plays on the pk and the pp. the only question if if he can transfer his game to the nhl at his size. if he does he will be a top 30 scorer in the NHL in my mind. you can't not pick that at 6.
		 
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		|  06-23-2016, 03:13 PM | #5760 |  
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					Originally Posted by Robo  Is Keller really that good? |  
If Keller was 6'2" instead of 5'10" it would be the "big 4" and not the "big 3" at the top this year. His size is the only thing that keeps him down a bit.
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