[Rumour] Flames have permission to talk to Bishop. Wants 7x7 extension. - Page 5 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Toonage · 06-23-2016, 11:58 AM

Also we haven't seen anything. No prototypes, no official measurements, nothing (that I know of). All we have is Corey Hirsch's best guesses done up in a slick VR package.

rhino · 06-23-2016, 12:05 PM

If anyone wants Reimer here why wouldn't the Flames resign Ramo? Better stats over the last 2 years. I am not saying we should bring back Ramo at all but if you are changing your goaltending then do it for the better and that will come with some cost. Reimer would be a mistake.

REDVAN · 06-23-2016, 12:06 PM

Vinny01 · 06-23-2016, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rhino

If anyone wants Reimer here why wouldn't the Flames resign Ramo? Better stats over the last 2 years. I am not saying we should bring back Ramo at all but if you are changing your goaltending then do it for the better and that will come with some cost. Reimer would be a mistake.

No matter how you look at it the optics of bringing Ramo back especially if Ortio is the backup are terrible.

Reimer at least is a change and apparently has really good advanced goalie stars FWIW

sureLoss · 06-23-2016, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rhino

If anyone wants Reimer here why wouldn't the Flames resign Ramo? Better stats over the last 2 years. I am not saying we should bring back Ramo at all but if you are changing your goaltending then do it for the better and that will come with some cost. Reimer would be a mistake.

#1 reason. Busted knee for Ramo. Questionable he will be ready for beginning of the season.

Major Happy · 06-23-2016, 12:10 PM

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#1 reason. Busted knee for Ramo. Questionable he will be ready for beginning of the season.

and he's not that good.

Huntingwhale · 06-23-2016, 12:10 PM

I think a goalie like Bishop is the exact type of player you choose to overpay on. If it takes a couple extra 2nds or whatever, you do it. The alternate scenario is we keep those picks (which MOST LIKELY won't pan out) and we still have goaltending issues. Sure Reimer won't cost anything to acquire other then cap space. But as a fan I'm in it to win games and win a cup. I think Bishop gets us closer to that goal then Reimer or Fleury does.

Bishop at 29 is the exact same age as Kipper in 2005 when he won his vezina. So the talk of him being too old doesn't jive with me. No one was saying that about Kipper at that time.

I'm of the opinion that if you're going to overpay for a player, you'd better know what you're getting and it better be a damned good one. A legit #1C, legit #1D and legit #1G are worth over paying for. Those are the types of players that win you games on their own. With goaltending being the Flames' biggest flaw right now, having a proven top 5 guy might very well be the key to pushing us over the hump and beyond and will really show the finish line to this rebuild.

Bishop is the guy I hope we get. But I'm also glad we have BT doing the negotiating. This isn't Feaster getting bent over the barrel or Sutter off his meds. Treliving wins trades, period. In fact, Yzerman should feel lucky to get anything back.

I think if an overpayment does occur everyone here, including myself, will be kind of upset and sad about it. But comes hockey season, when we see a stabilising force in net and the ripple effect it will have through the lineup, I think we'll all be pretty darn happy we have him. Either way I trust BT to make the correct decision.

Ashasx · 06-23-2016, 12:13 PM

I have to imagine a big goaltender like Bishop will fall faster than most other goalies because once he starts losing his speed, he's going to be really slow.

jaikorven · 06-23-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

I have to imagine a big goaltender like Bishop will fall faster than most other goalies because once he starts losing his speed, he's going to be really slow.

He's taller yet still slim enough, so I don't see this being accurate. If he was a stockier build fair statement though.

jmac98 · 06-23-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

once he starts losing his speed, he's going to be really slow.

Nailed it

Ashasx · 06-23-2016, 12:19 PM

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Nailed it

I know what you mean, but Bishop really isn't that quick right now.

Enoch Root · 06-23-2016, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

I have to imagine a big goaltender like Bishop will fall faster than most other goalies because once he starts losing his speed, he's going to be really slow.

Are there other examples of larger goalies getting slower at a younger age than smaller goalies?

This seems like a real stretch to me

jmac98 · 06-23-2016, 12:20 PM

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I know what you mean, but Bishop really isn't that quick right now.

I know. It just read funny and I'm on a 3.5 hour conference call.

JurassicTunga12 · 06-23-2016, 12:20 PM

The thing i'm questioning about him is his play after the goalie equipment size reduction. Would it affect him much? or any goalie?

Ashasx · 06-23-2016, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Are there other examples of larger goalies getting slower at a younger age than smaller goalies?

This seems like a real stretch to me

There really isn't a huge precedent for any goalie as tall as Bishop in the past. This is pure speculation by me. Never implied anything else.

transplant99 · 06-23-2016, 12:23 PM

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Ha ha ha. Can't wait for tomorrow night so all this speculation can end one way or another.

What assurance is there that this will end tomorrow night? He has 2 months to figure out the goaltender debacle.

Wolfman · 06-23-2016, 12:26 PM

What is everyone's opinion of Ortio being a cheap backup. Seems capable of having that role, he's not quite ready for starters role.

hockey.modern · 06-23-2016, 12:30 PM

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What is everyone's opinion of Ortio being a cheap backup. Seems capable of having that role, he's not quite ready for starters role.

The man himself even said he would like to be back. He said he doesn't deserve a raise and that he needs to play much better.

Otto-matic · 06-23-2016, 12:30 PM

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What assurance is there that this will end tomorrow night? He has 2 months to figure out the goaltender debacle.

I think more so the point if they are going to make a splash, It'll be with this years draft picks. Rather then wait in the summer and try to pry out a goalie with prospects / future picks.

Flames_F.T.W · 06-23-2016, 12:30 PM

I know it hasn't really worked in the past, but having a "Rumours ONLY" thread would be great. No comments, just tweets and quotes about rumours. I've been refreshing this regularly hoping to find a rumour but it's 99% discussion and I have to sift through everything to find anything.

Maybe just give Sureloss his own thread that nobody can add to?