The New American Politics thread

[Tinordi]

Obama will be the Democrats' Reagan.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

One disastrous number came out in the polling data today.

Hillary leads Drumpf in Florida by 8, 47 to 39.


If Hillary wins all the states that have gone to the Democrats since 2000 and wins Florida, she will have 271 votes in the electoral college.

That being the ballgame.

I don't think this kind of analysis makes sense in this one, though. Who even knows what an electoral map with Donald Trump as the GOP nominee looks like. If you're erring on the safe side, you have to think that way more states qualify as battlegrounds than the usual 3 or 4.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I don't think this kind of analysis makes sense in this one, though. Who even knows what an electoral map with Donald Trump as the GOP nominee looks like. If you're erring on the safe side, you have to think that way more states qualify as battlegrounds than the usual 3 or 4.

True. I'm sure that there will be about 15 states that are in play on either side. Ones like Arizona and Georgia on the one side, Michigan maybe on the other in addition to the usual dozen that are toss ups.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Wow Trump's breathing at this speech is insanely distracting. Almost is if he's doing it on purpose so no one talks about the content of his speech.

[Caged Great]

This may be the most crazy speech yet. Complete non-sense.

[Looch City]

I can't watch the video, someone paraphrase!

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

I can't watch the video, someone paraphrase!

Basically he was making her out to be the literal devil by both exaggerating things and blatantly lying about others. If she was remotely like what he was describing her as, she would make Frank Underwood look like a kitten.

[Senator Clay Davis]

He lied the entire time....he read a teleprompter....he breathed in after every word it seemed. That's about it.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

The problem is that the first bit just doesn't matter to a surprisingly large amount of people. The fact that he's lying is basically beside the point apparently. I don't know what there is to be done about that.

[Senator Clay Davis]

To his credit, I guess, is how do you fact check a speech that is entirely untrue? He just overwhelms you with lie after lie, brag after brag, exaggeration after exaggeration, that by the end of it you just sort of shrug your shoulders and figure "Surely there's no one on this planet who thinks this man is anything but hot air and orange skin?". It's not the worst tactic for him to try, make yourself appear to be such a joke to normal people that they assume he can't win and won't vote, while your insane-o supporters actually do. Still it's odd that a candidate who wants "change" would be praying for the lowest turnout possible, but here we are.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Once you've passed "peak lie", you might as well just keep going. There's no reputation for honesty that you're putting at risk. It can't hurt you politically anymore.

[wittynickname]

While Trump is rambling on about god knows what for the millionth time, currently on CSpan, Representative John Lewis is staging a sit-in in the House of Reps demanding action on gun control measures.

It's about damn time Democrats showed a backbone and really tried to force some action on something that's desperately overdue.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

While Trump is rambling on about god knows what for the millionth time, currently on CSpan, Representative John Lewis is staging a sit-in in the House of Reps demanding action on gun control measures.

It's about damn time Democrats showed a backbone and really tried to force some action on something that's desperately overdue.

I'd love to think anything will come from this but they're trying to oppose the same group that loves freedom so much they'd prefer terrorists be able to buy guns rather than one American go unarmed. It's a good show but in the end nothing will happen.

Best case scenario is Hillary wins, Thomas retires, and she gets two supreme Court nominees who are able to read and understand the words "well regulated militia".

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

I'd love to think anything will come from this but they're trying to oppose the same group that loves freedom so much they'd prefer terrorists be able to buy guns rather than one American go unarmed. It's a good show but in the end nothing will happen.

Best case scenario is Hillary wins, Thomas retires, and she gets two supreme Court nominees who are able to read and understand the words "well regulated militia".

Well now Paul Ryan has taken control of CSpan cameras so there's no visual coverage of the event.

Funny how the same people fiercely defending the second amendment don't seem all that concerned about the first.

[GGG]

Reading The text of Donald Trumps speech it's actually not that crazy. His new guy has him pivoting to how rigged Wall Street is. Focusing on Hillary being bought by foreign interests and protectionist initiatives. That could be a winning formula.

Then he goes dog whistle on immigration and anti Muslim craziness but his first half of his speech where he goes Bernie is well done.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

While Trump is rambling on about god knows what for the millionth time, currently on CSpan, Representative John Lewis is staging a sit-in in the House of Reps demanding action on gun control measures.

It's about damn time Democrats showed a backbone and really tried to force some action on something that's desperately overdue.

Sounds like there's an election on the horizon..better now than never though

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Best case scenario is Hillary wins, Thomas retires, and she gets two supreme Court nominees who are able to read and understand the words "well regulated militia".

Thomas won't... he'll be like Scalia, he'll die before he'll retire with a Democrat in office. RBG probably will and Kennedy might.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Live tweeting from a Trump rally in Greensboro, NC. Good lord this is beyond the pale.

https://storify.com/case_face/a-trum...-here-is-palpa

Quoting myself because there's a follow-up: the writer of those tweets has since been the subject of an online (and RL!) harassment campaign by white supremacists and some of Trump's other ardent supporters.

https://newrepublic.com/article/1345...hreatened-life

There were the True Believers: Trump supporters who have bought into the campaign’s narrative that the media can’t be trusted and is obsessed with smearing their candidate. Convinced I’d fabricated the entire story, they wanted to know How come you don’t have any videos? No photos? Where’s your proof? They demanded to know where I’d stood in the crowd. What I was wearing. Eventually, they wanted to know how much Hillary Clinton and George Soros had paid me to write my account, a question I considered answering with a snapshot of my monthly bank statement.

The self-identified Men’s Rights Advocates just seemed eager to lay into someone they perceived as a liberal “value-signaler.” They targeted my masculinity and sexual orientation, labeling me a “####” and a “libfag.” Before I knew it, I was receiving multiple email notices that I’d been signed up for a variety of hardcore gay pornography services.

By Saturday, the new cause online was a concentrated effort to try and cost me my job at Georgia Southern. The trolls planned a deluge of calls and emails to my college’s dean and Georgia’s Board of Regents. Though they were obviously unaware of the protections of academic freedom, and that a few complaints couldn’t strip me of my professorship, they said to “make things up” because “there are no rules with the left.”

Trailing not far behind were the white supremacists.

The first death threat came on Sunday from a Twitter user named “Warrior Queen,” whose handle is @SupaGoy88 and avatar is a meme of a small girl sporting a goat’s head. “National Socialist,” the bio read. “One more #### for the tree,” this person tweeted, and because I was still trying to learn about these subcultures, I asked SupaGoy88 what “the tree” meant, and received the answer:

Over the next hour there were two more, including an assessment from “Marijan,” a “European culture & heritage enthusiast” who had added me to his list “Traitorous whites (purge).” He wrote that I was “a real oven-worthy ######.” Minutes later, @Khazer_Soze (whose Twitter page has since been deleted), told me how fun it would be when “we finally get our boots on your neck.”

[...]

There’s only so much you can do about online harassment. You can block them on Twitter and Facebook, and report them in the hopes they’ll get banned. There is no absolute solution, no one thing that keeps you from living with extra vigilance or keeping an eye peeled for suspicious people. Just last night, sitting at my desk and working on a draft of this very essay, I watched an unfamiliar car circle my house a half dozen times, stopping each lap to idle at the edge of my driveway, before u-turning down the street and pulling into neighbors’ driveways and doing it all over again.

I called the police and installed a top-of-the-line security system. A week ago this would’ve seemed absurd.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Quoting myself because there's a follow-up: the writer of those tweets has since been the subject of an online (and RL!) harassment campaign by white supremacists and some of Trump's other ardent supporters.

https://newrepublic.com/article/1345...hreatened-life

Can't possibly be true. Online shaming, harassment and attempting to silence free speech are only tools of the regressive left.

[Drak]

Trump rape allegations

http://www.alternet.org/election-201...t-donald-trump