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Old 06-20-2016, 03:33 PM   #41
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Boring is his MO though. When you get drafted and get compared to Steve Larmer, you bet your butt boring but very effective is what you should be expecting. I love players like Larmer, nothing flashy bit one of the most effective players around.
I never watched Larmer a lot back in the day, but for modern players I'd compare Klimchuk to Frolik, maybe a little feistier. That said, Fro is not the most exciting player either.
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Old 06-20-2016, 03:44 PM   #42
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If Klimchuk turns into a defensive specialist like Kris Draper or Kirk Maltby, that would be a great outcome
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:35 PM   #43
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Recap of the 2015 draft:


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Karnahooha? Chillington?
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:10 PM   #45
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Sure Bouma hits, blocks shots, but every play dies on his stick. Can't play offense which I don't expect as he is a bottom six player but even in our zone he can't make plays to get out other than dump the puck to the other team.
That is oldschool thinking at its finest.

How many good teams have players that can't get it done offensively in their bottom 6? Every team in the playoffs is chalk full of players with the ability to play at both ends of the ice and goes hand in hand with your team being built the right way to compete nowadays. Good teams might have one or two guys on the roster that are merely body smashers but but you shouldn't expect the majority of these players to be so one dimensional anymore.
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Old 06-22-2016, 06:20 AM   #46
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Sweden released its WJC summer camp roster.

http://www.swehockey.se/globalassets...l-aug_2016.pdf

Surprisingly Kylington left off. You have to start wondering if he burned some bridges with Sweden's national program.

Andersson will turn 20 in October, so won't be eligible for this year's tournament.
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Old 06-22-2016, 09:00 PM   #47
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Anyone know Andersson's true height and weight? I see everything from 6' 200lbs to 6'2" 215lbs. Probably somewhere in the middle I guess. Anywho if he could be a 6'1" 215lbs guy that's a pretty solid Defender to add to his offensive upside.

Really like this prospect. Hope he and Kylington have big seasons in Stockton next year.
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Old 06-22-2016, 09:05 PM   #48
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Sweden released its WJC summer camp roster.

http://www.swehockey.se/globalassets...l-aug_2016.pdf

Surprisingly Kylington left off. You have to start wondering if he burned some bridges with Sweden's national program.

Andersson will turn 20 in October, so won't be eligible for this year's tournament.
no liljegren either. odd
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One thing that isn't like the others is birthplace, Calgary, Canada.
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Sweden released its WJC summer camp roster.

http://www.swehockey.se/globalassets...l-aug_2016.pdf

Surprisingly Kylington left off. You have to start wondering if he burned some bridges with Sweden's national program.

Andersson will turn 20 in October, so won't be eligible for this year's tournament.
Im starting to wonder if he is any good.

there is a trail of players that is littered with good skaters that have other issues that hold them back.

Really hoping he isnt one.
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Im starting to wonder if he is any good.

there is a trail of players that is littered with good skaters that have other issues that hold them back.

Really hoping he isnt one.
From what I heard the best thing for him was to stay in one place for a full season. He did this and we didn't hear any negative reports out of Stockton at all, so I'd say he's putting any problems he seemed to have behind him. His coach was happy with his progress and he's also grown a bit of muscle. He's a teenager after all so things don't always go super smoothly.
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Im starting to wonder if he is any good.

there is a trail of players that is littered with good skaters that have other issues that hold them back.

Really hoping he isnt one.
watch him play
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Im starting to wonder if he is any good.

there is a trail of players that is littered with good skaters that have other issues that hold them back.

Really hoping he isnt one.
From my viewings on AHL live I don't think we have much to worry about, I found most of his major flaws were blown out of proportion and he showed constant improvement throughout the season.
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Old 06-23-2016, 12:12 AM   #54
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I personally still have Kylington ahead of Andersson.

Andersson is more well-rounded, and I really like him as well. However, Kylington to me has a higher ceiling offensively - both in his ability to shoot (his shot is pure awesome I think) and to actually generate offence out of nothing. He is just so quick at making offensive decisions out there, and is a beast of a skater with respect to speed, acceleration and agility.

I just think his upside is really that high, and has made great progress with the holes in his game.

I think organizationally, he can compete well with Brodie in terms of skating, and Giordano in terms of shot - but no defencemen can 'think' as creatively as Kylington does. How that translates, I am not sure, but I am impressed with how quickly it happens.
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:37 AM   #55
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I personally still have Kylington ahead of Andersson.

Andersson is more well-rounded, and I really like him as well. However, Kylington to me has a higher ceiling offensively - both in his ability to shoot (his shot is pure awesome I think) and to actually generate offence out of nothing. He is just so quick at making offensive decisions out there, and is a beast of a skater with respect to speed, acceleration and agility.

I just think his upside is really that high, and has made great progress with the holes in his game.

I think organizationally, he can compete well with Brodie in terms of skating, and Giordano in terms of shot - but no defencemen can 'think' as creatively as Kylington does. How that translates, I am not sure, but I am impressed with how quickly it happens.
As do I, though I flip back and forth.

Andersson is more well rounded and has a higher floor - he seems almost certain to be a solid NHLer to me. And that is going to get him ranked very highly on our prospect list.

Kylington has a much higher ceiling, but with some well documented concerns. Watching him over the last year, it is clear that either those concerns were overblown, or that he has started to overcome them.

Its far from a sure thing, but Kylington has the potential to be an elite player. And for me, that puts him at the top of our prospect list.
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:42 AM   #56
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I still like Andersson over Kylington. Lower upside, but Andersson is the better rounded player. I'm worried if Kylington can physically handle the NHL style of play and if will he be good enough defensively. Already one concussion in his pro career.
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