I think we essentially return to the earth in the form of minerals and nutrients (either becoming worm food, or being burned into ash that is re-distributed to the earth).
I would like to think we get to meet the creator of this whole thing, who explains the purpose of everything, the grand design, the simple rules/truths that govern the universe....
who knows... i will say that i am not dying to find out just yet
It's a little frustrating when there are these fascinating implications that we may be biologically hardwired to have these life changing mystical/spiritual experiences with psychedelics, and people aren't intrigued whatsoever.
They just say- "oh drugs are weird and you're tripping" without delving any deeper into the matter.
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It's a little frustrating when there are these fascinating implications that we may be biologically hardwired to have these life changing mystical/spiritual experiences with psychedelics, and people aren't intrigued whatsoever.
They just say- "oh drugs are weird and you're tripping" without delving any deeper into the matter.
Tons of animals like to trip out. It certainly doesn't mean there is a god, an afterlife, or anything else. Just means you tripped balls.
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Another thread that Peter had to make about himself and his beliefs. The ignore list works great until you all start quoting his mind numbing responses.
If we're to be respecting all users beliefs that should probably include respecting Atheists beliefs, which Peter very clearly isn't.
Another thread that Peter had to make about himself and his beliefs. The ignore list works great until you all start quoting his mind numbing responses.
If we're to be respecting all users beliefs that should probably include respecting Atheists beliefs, which Peter very clearly isn't.
It's a little frustrating when there are these fascinating implications that we may be biologically hardwired to have these life changing mystical/spiritual experiences with psychedelics, and people aren't intrigued whatsoever.
They just say- "oh drugs are weird and you're tripping" without delving any deeper into the matter.
Sorry, didn't mean to dismiss it like that. To elaborate, I'd say that a lot of what we see as God or think of as some special moment we had can be a construct of the mind, and nothing more. I was once in Thailand on Malaria medication known to cause hallucinations. We were staying in a hut and I woke up in the middle of the night. Not dreaming, but awake. I saw Thai girls with knives going through our bags stealing our things. They were there, 100% real to me. I watched for a couple minutes before waking my friend up. Even after he said "dude, there are no girls here" I still saw them. Then they vanished before my eyes.
The point of the story is that there were no girls, it was a construct of my mind based on the situation we were in and the drugs I was on. So if a girl does hallucinogens and claims to speak with God, it doesn't make it's existence any more real than the Thai girls were. And you don't need to be on drugs to have these experiences. Thus, the mind is a powerful thing, and when people say God exists within you, there is some truth to that, becuase you made it all up, without ever knowing it.
That title should read "I'm A Scientist Who Was An Atheist Until DMT made me trip balls and hallucinate a God".
I agree that there are certain psychedelic drugs that can spiritually enlighten a person or literally cure depression. Take shrooms in the forest and I can almost guarantee you will feel like you are one with nature by the end of your trip. It can open your mind, but spirituality is not the same as religion.
Animals on Psychedelics: Survival of the Trippiest
"There's a dimension of awesomeness, of profound humility, of the self being stripped bare. In the psychology of religion, mystical experience is well-described-unity, transcendence of time and space, noetic knowledge, sacredness, ineffability....It's the sacred dimension of revelation, but it can be what Kierkegaard called `fear and trembling'-incredibly profound and powerful terrain to travel." Hallucinogens then do the same job as religion: they provide proof of unity, which-in humans and all other animals-is still the only known cure for fear of death."
Work must be pretty damn slow for you. It seems like you are purposefully causing drama in every off topic thread just to help get through your 9-5 job.
No it doesn't mean there is god or an afterlife. But it could mean that.
No, it couldn't. Sliver's right. There's no connection between these things. For whatever reason, people seem to associated spiritual experiences with religious nonsense. One does not in any way entail the other. If I had to guess at the reason, I'd say it's just that we're conditioned to associate spiritual experiences with the supernatural through centuries of those experiences being deigned solely within the purview of religion, because that's the only way drawing a link makes any sense.
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It's black and white. There is no evidence whatsoever of a god, gods or anything supernatural.
It's not black and white, because our evidence (or lack thereof) doesn't explain away everything.
Sure we have no empirical evidence of afterlife, but that doesn't mean it can't exist insofar that we just haven't discovered it yet (or can't). Or it's very likely that there's nothing at all. But lack of evidence doesn't make it an impossibility. We need to have evidence of it being an impossibility before we can make that claim.
What would you consider supernatural? Anyone from 150 years ago would say that instant communication is "supernatural". To put things into a category of supernatural and just call them black and white impossible due to lack of evidence, to me, is just as arrogant as someone trying to convince me that the Earth was created in 7 days and all the universe revolves around us. The only difference is that the former has been DISPROVED. Whereas, the idea of afterlife hasn't been. Plenty of solid arguments against it, not much in the way of arguments for it, but not disproved.
No, it couldn't. Sliver's right. There's no connection between these things. For whatever reason, people seem to associated spiritual experiences with religious nonsense. One does not in any way entail the other. If I had to guess at the reason, I'd say it's just that we're conditioned to associate spiritual experiences with the supernatural through centuries of those experiences being deigned solely within the purview of religion, because that's the only way drawing a link makes any sense.
I don't associate spiritual experiences with religion, they're just spiritual
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