I find it sad that you would call the views of some here childish malarkey. We don't have proof either way and yet you would have us believe yours is the only credible view. The fact is we don't know and mocking people does nothing to gte others here to support your views.
His views make a hell of a lot more sense than the hokey-pokey religious views, unless your willing to accept every living creature that dies goes to the same afterlife place(heaven) then the whole concept is complete trash.
Heaven must be a very large place to fit the trillions of souls that have died in the last 300 million years. Can I ride a T-Rex in heaven?
Oh, and if you think humans are different, science proves otherwise!!
“Many have died; you also will die. The drum of death is being beaten. The world has fallen in love with a dream. Only sayings of the wise will remain.”
― Kabir, The Bijak of Kabir
Which means to me this world is a dream as it's impermanent.
His views make a hell of a lot more sense than the hokey-pokey religious views, unless your willing to accept every living creature that dies goes to the same afterlife place(heaven) then the whole concept is complete trash.
Heaven must be a very large place to fit the trillions of souls that have died in the last 300 million years. Can I ride a T-Rex in heaven?
Oh, and if you think humans are different, science proves otherwise!!
My look at it is that religion has screwed with people's understanding and heaven isn't a place but an experience.
As for humans being different, who knows what other life forms experience.
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I was speaking about what you brought up, heaven.
That heaven is a place we go after death, is probably something invented by religion.
Probably? no offense but what else could possibly have invented it?
Heaven is just another word for "sky"(German I think), when the world was "flat" people pointed up and said god lives up there in heaven and if your good you'll go there when you die.
Probably? no offense but what else could possibly have invented it?
Heaven is just another word for "sky"(German I think), when the world was "flat" people pointed up and said god lives up there in heaven and if your good you'll go there when you die.
Learning from a different point of view perhaps? If you remembered every previous life experience you would likely be biased and not learn lessons from another point of view. The whole karma thing seemingly plays a part in that too.
I just look at everything as a learning experience and don't know 100% what happens either way but I'd like to believe our soul continues on to get back to the divine. I'm not a religious person at all as I think organized religion segregates too many people if you don't agree with their views (Just my opinion). I have become very spiritual over the past couple of years however and something about it just seems right to me. I've read a lot on the afterlife and NDEs and something just resonates with me. I also see that it could be completely wrong but that doesn't bother me.
I don't know why people are upset one way or another with anyone else's view though and calling them silly or crazy is just your egos way of protecting what you think is right. Why can't we just let people believe what they want to believe? How does that affect people or bother people lol?
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Probably? no offense but what else could possibly have invented it?
Heaven is just another word for "sky"(German I think), when the world was "flat" people pointed up and said god lives up there in heaven and if your good you'll go there when you die.
Heaven has a number of meanings. Some look at it as a level of consciousness that we can attain now. Some look at it as the after life and yes it also means up there in the sky. You choose not to take it as anything but the sky above and miss the best possibility. Don't worry about the word "heaven", think about it as just beauty. You should forget all your religious crap and just look at life as something to be enjoyed now, this moment. I find it strange that those most opposed to religion use religion to justify their views. You're attacking a paper tiger. The truth lies within yourself or as Socrates said "know thyself".
Quote:
“If you want the truth,
I’ll tell you the truth:
Listen to the secret sound,
the real sound,
which is inside you.”
― Kabir
Here's another clue
Quote:
“... What is God?
He is the breath inside the breath.”
― Kabir
His views make a hell of a lot more sense than the hokey-pokey religious views, unless your willing to accept every living creature that dies goes to the same afterlife place(heaven) then the whole concept is complete trash.
Heaven must be a very large place to fit the trillions of souls that have died in the last 300 million years. Can I ride a T-Rex in heaven?
Oh, and if you think humans are different, science proves otherwise!!
Its a very small place. Only the truly enlightened stay there. The rest of us get recycled back.
Its also how the food chain works.
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Heaven has a number of meanings. Some look at it as a level of consciousness that we can attain now. Some look at it as the after life and yes it also means up there in the sky. You choose not to take it as anything but the sky above and miss the best possibility. Don't worry about the word "heaven", think about it as just beauty. You should forget all your religious crap and just look at life as something to be enjoyed now, this moment. I find it strange that those most opposed to religion use religion to justify their views. You're attacking a paper tiger. The truth lies within yourself or as Socrates said "know thyself".
Here's another clue
I don't know if I'm putting all my eggs in the basket of a 15th century misogynist.
Just because someone is from India and the English translation seems stilted and profound, does not make them so.
Here's a clue for you:
Quote:
"I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark"
Stephen Hawking
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If your consciousness came from an extra dimension shouldn't you be aware of this if its always existed. Or if your consciousness is eternal then how did it start. If it can change from not existing to existing why isn't the reverse possible.
With that thinking then nothing should exist, including the first atom yet somehow science tells us energy can neither be created nor destroyed. It can only change forms.
With that thinking then nothing should exist, including the first atom yet somehow science tells us energy can neither be created nor destroyed. It can only change forms.
