[News] Flames hire Dave Cameron & Paul Jerrard as assistant coaches

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Doubt he'll be the special teams guy anymore, likely more a player development guy

Series clinching goal coach

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

That's the one thing I didn't love. It's not that I don think the retained coaches are good (I don't really know), but really question just what options our new coach had on not keeping those guys. Hey new boss, so I know you basically said these two are quality people, but I'd prefer you find other things for them to do, I want my own coaches........... Likely not going to happen, and I don't like the coach not having autonomy to pick his staff.

I agree to a point, but getting to choose his own associate coach is still pretty huge, and at least he'll get to dictate who does what, it's not like he's going to be told "This is Marty, he'll be in charge of special teams"

Besides, if GG gets to know these guys and then decides he doesn't like what they bring to the table, I'm sure management will have no problem looking elsewhere at that point. Much like how Treliving didn't immediately fire Hartley to bring in someone of his own choosing.

[sureLoss]

Ben Kuzma suggests current Utica assistant Paul Jerrard may be under consideration.

Jerrard has been an assistant for Gulutzan in the AHL and when he was Stars head coach.

Seems to have followed Gulutzan to the Canucks organization after the Stars fired them both.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Ben Kuzma suggests current Utica assistant Paul Jerrard may be under consideration.

Jerrard has been an assistant for Gulutzan in the AHL and when he was Stars head coach.

Seems to have followed Gulutzan to the Canucks organization after the Stars fired them both.

Interesting.

Gulutzan will get to bring in at least one of his guys.

[Ring of Fire]

No inside info, just some names to throw out there based on Treliving's type and some connections to current Flames staff:

Jared Bednar
44 years old
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=10983
Head Coach: Lake Erie Monsters (AHL Champions)
-5th ranked PK regular season (85.7%), 8th in playoffs 84.7%
-17th ranked PP regular season (16.7%), 2nd in playoffs (24.2%)

Ray Edwards
46 years old
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=1540
Player Development: Calgary Flames
Former Treliving hire
Former Head Coach: San Antonio Rampage/ Portland Pirates

Dave Cameron
57 years old
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=7475
Last coached: Ottawa Senators HC, 2016 IIHF WC for Canada (unemployed)
Positive: https://www.nhl.com/news/senators-co...tract/c-769911
https://www.nhl.com/news/senators-ca...ummer/c-771482
Negative: http://www.ottawasun.com/2016/04/12/...h-dave-cameron

Troy Mann
46 years old
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=21681
Head Coach: Hershey Bears (AHL Finalists)
-17th ranked PK (82.8%), 10th ranked PK playoffs (84.3%)
-18th ranked PP (16.5%), 9th ranked PP playoffs (12.7%)

Nate Leaman
43 years old
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=56437
Head Coach: Providence College (NCAA)
-20.2% PP
-84.9% PK
-Con: has contract with Providence until 2021

Paul Jerrard
51 years old
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=2535
Assistant Coach: Utica Comets (AHL)
Previously assistant coach under Gulutzan in Stars organization
http://www.jerrardsporthockey.com/#!maintenance/c66t

Mark French
45 years old
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=60419
Head Coach: Calgary Hitmen (WHL)
(Former Head Coach: Hershey Bears who lost in Finals to Gulutzan's Texas Stars in 2010, Mann was AC at the time)
-6th ranked PK (81%), 5th ranked PK playoffs (84.2%)
-5th ranked PP (23.1%), 15th ranked PP playoffs (14.3%)

Toby Petersen
37 years old
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=30633
Assistant Coach: Lake Erie Monsters, played for Gulutzan in Texas/Dallas

John Slaney
44 years old
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=3893
Assistant Coach: Arizona Coyotes, former assistant coach: Portland Pirates (AHL)

Trent Whitfield
39 years old
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=24718
Assistant Coach: Calgary Hitmen (WHL), former assistant coach Portland Pirates (AHL)
-Only 2 years coaching experience

Newell Brown
54 years old
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=618
Assistant Coach: Arizona Coyotes, former assistant coach Anaheim Ducks (Burke connection)

[topfiverecords]

Gelinas will stay on as Johnny's secret service.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I agree to a point, but getting to choose his own associate coach is still pretty huge, and at least he'll get to dictate who does what, it's not like he's going to be told "This is Marty, he'll be in charge of special teams"

Besides, if GG gets to know these guys and then decides he doesn't like what they bring to the table, I'm sure management will have no problem looking elsewhere at that point. Much like how Treliving didn't immediately fire Hartley to bring in someone of his own choosing.

In an interview I heard today. GG mentioned that Nieuwendyk called him when he heard GG took HC job in Calgary. Nieuwendyk went on to describe how outstanding Gelinas was to GG, more or less telling him that Gelinas is a keeper. There was alot of discussion with GG, all very positive about Gelinas. Players have a deep respect for Gelinas that is major currency for a coaching staff.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

In an interview I heard today. GG mentioned that Nieuwendyk called him when he heard GG took HC job in Calgary. Nieuwendyk went on to describe how outstanding Gelinas was to GG, more or less telling him that Gelinas is a keeper. There was alot of discussion with GG, all very positive about Gelinas. Players have a deep respect for Gelinas that is major currency for a coaching staff.

That's nice, but Niewy hasn't exactly instilled confidence in his GM abilities, so not sure what it means that he likes Gelinas

Regardless, I like Gelinas as a personality so I hope he's a good coach, and I do agree with the thoughts that GG will get to pick his role and if it doesn't work out go in another direction. It likely was decent to keep some stability with coaches.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Series clinching goal coach

I guess he spent time with Stajan and no one else.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Hard to believe that years ago when we heard Brian Burke's name being mentioned as the possible hockey operations head, that we would be here now, rejoicing abput how he has created a management and coaching staff such as this... thank God he didn't turn out to be the guy most of us were fearful of getting.

I was happy from day one, I loved Burke

His bite was entertaining as hell, and anyone that get the gears of Kevin Lowe like that was more than welcome to call Olympic Way his home.

[Bingo]

I guess I'm waiting to see if this is an assistant coach or an associate coach? His choice or Treliving's choice (think Treliving said his with input)?

If he hires a guy almost as qualified as himself he brings in a replacement threat, but also beefs up the intellect and firepower behind the bench.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Why don't they look at that guy from Providence?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Why don't they look at that guy from Providence?

Leeman is among a number of candidates listed above, and it looks like his contracted status with Providence through 2020 could be an obstacle.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

While I'm mostly happy with the job BT has done so far, and look forward to seeing how GG does as well, I for one am not rejoicing anything just yet.

There is a decent young core in place, and all of the management and coaches seem to be young, hard working, sharp minded guys but there is still a long ways to go before they accomplish what I want them to, which is to be a perennial Stanley Cup contending team.

Originally Posted by Bingo

I was happy from day one, I loved Burke

His bite was entertaining as hell, and anyone that get the gears of Kevin Lowe like that was more than welcome to call Olympic Way his home.

by rejoicing i meant more that the team and management have not turned into the laughing stock that many were concerned about becoming.

I am cautiously optimistic and agree about where we would like to see the club, but it could be much much worse.. Canucks or Oilers worse.. All im saying is thank god it hasnt become that.

And Bingo, theres no way you could have predicted that Burke would come in, shut his mouth and go about just focusing on turning this franchise around. He could have easily become an embarrassment as he had with TO and Van.. where I agree with you is I have not been disappointed since day 1.

[liamenator]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

And Bingo, theres no way you could have predicted that Burke would come in, shut his mouth and go about just focusing on turning this franchise around. He could have easily become an embarrassment as he had with TO and Van.. where I agree with you is I have not been disappointed since day 1.

Actually, a lot of people took him at his word and predicted exactly that. The Burke sideshow hysterics were part of a Toronto media narrative that appealed to sky-is-falling folks.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I was happy from day one, I loved Burke

His bite was entertaining as hell, and anyone that get the gears of Kevin Lowe like that was more than welcome to call Olympic Way his home.

Yes I also was not concerned. Burke always seemed like a successful knowledgable and entertaining hockey guy. Not saying he doesn't sometimes make you shake his head with his posturing (mostly in the past as a GM) but generally entertaining.

I immediately felt better when he was hired, brought instant credibility to the org. which was sorely missing with Feaster IMO.

[IgiTang]

Do we need to dig up the thread to show what you guys actually thought? It's easy to say that you never had an issue and believed Burke would be who he is now, but I'm not sure there were that many people who thought Burke was the right guy for the job.

I know I was certainly concerned.

[calumniate]

How many sutters are left in the org now?

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Do we need to dig up the thread to show what you guys actually thought? It's easy to say that you never had an issue and believed Burke would be who he is now, but I'm not sure there were that many people who thought Burke was the right guy for the job.

I know I was certainly concerned.

I will be completely comfortable if you choose to partake in that activity.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

...And Bingo, theres no way you could have predicted that Burke would come in, shut his mouth and go about just focusing on turning this franchise around.

Well, he did...

He could have easily become an embarrassment as he had with TO and Van.

...and this never happened.

I was concerned when Burke was hired. I was never a fan of his work in Toronto, and my memories of his time in Vancouver soured me on his capabilities as a GM, and on his persona. I can't say that my opinion of him has changed at all. I still think he is a bombastic media whore, but I am very happy with how he has gone about his business with the team while here in Calgary. His abrasive personality and the nonsense he spouts in the media is much more palatable now that he is not the one making player personnel decisions.

I have to admit, he is fairly entertaining.