06-10-2016, 02:13 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: May 2016
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
Shinkaruk and Poirier may not have their first pro seasons in the AHL count as they have late birthdays and so the first year may be counted as a 19 year old. In that case they wouldn't need to be protected as this coming season would count as their second season.
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Yea, I was wondering the same thing.
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06-10-2016, 02:15 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
Next year will be very telling. I think Colborne will be protected. If Ferland and Shinkaruk progress, then I would agree that perhaps exposing Frolik is the best alternative. Otherwise, I think you are choosing your poison between losing a guy like Ferland or Kevin. Both of whom I really like.
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Yeah, right now my biggest worry would be losing Kevin. I guess who we lose may be dependent on the order of the draft and who Vegas has already taken.
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06-10-2016, 02:15 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Its no slam dunk that Frolik gets protected.
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06-10-2016, 02:16 PM
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#44
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Sorry if this has been asked,
What defines the players position?
Players like byfuglien and Burns, who have played both positions in the nhl.
What if a team intentionally changed an AHL goalie to a defender on their farm team?
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06-10-2016, 02:17 PM
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#45
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First Line Centre
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Teams may be safe to not protect certain higher-priced players, as the Vegas team also will operate within a salary cap. They can't pick 30 players at $5-mil each....
What I am trying to say is that if we have to leave Frolik exposed, he may still not get picked as his salary is relatively high compared to his production...
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06-10-2016, 02:17 PM
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#46
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
Yeah, right now my biggest worry would be losing Kevin. I guess who we lose may be dependent on the order of the draft and who Vegas has already taken.
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if there is only 1 expansion team, order doesn't matter.
Vegas just takes 1 player from each team.
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06-10-2016, 02:19 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Is Kilington exempt?
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06-10-2016, 02:20 PM
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#48
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First Line Centre
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I wonder how they choose each player? Maybe they start with the cup winners and go all the way down. They should make an event out of it where they only know whose exposed for 2 minutes before they have to pick for each team haha.
Be much better than them knowing days in advance and they just make a press release.
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06-10-2016, 02:20 PM
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#49
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Is Kilington exempt?
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by what has been presented, yes.
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06-10-2016, 02:22 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
Shinkaruk and Poirier may not have their first pro seasons in the AHL count as they have late birthdays and so the first year may be counted as a 19 year old. In that case they wouldn't need to be protected as this coming season would count as their second season.
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Both have already played 2 full AHL seasons.
I can't see how they wouldn't have to be protected or exposed if not.
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06-10-2016, 02:23 PM
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#51
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
Yeah, right now my biggest worry would be losing Kevin. I guess who we lose may be dependent on the order of the draft and who Vegas has already taken.
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Yeah, it will be great to see a full list of who is exempt, who has NMCs, etc. to get a feel of who might be protected/exposed. My gut feel is that an expansion team will load up on D. What teams have a #4 that is pretty good, but not worthy of protecting and thereby exposing the extra Forwards? Perhaps overvaluing Kevin a bit, but I would likely take him over Ferland, if I were LV.
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06-10-2016, 02:25 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lazypucker
Teams may be safe to not protect certain higher-priced players, as the Vegas team also will operate within a salary cap. They can't pick 30 players at $5-mil each....
What I am trying to say is that if we have to leave Frolik exposed, he may still not get picked as his salary is relatively high compared to his production...
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Without some trades all of their players will be waiver eligible, so stocking some of them for their farm team will be interesting.
Well they probably won't have a farm team right away but just send these players wherever they can.
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06-10-2016, 02:27 PM
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#53
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: May 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Both have already played 2 full AHL seasons.
I can't see how they wouldn't have to be protected or exposed if not.
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Only one year off their ELC's though.
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06-10-2016, 02:28 PM
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#54
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
Perhaps overvaluing Kevin a bit, but I would likely take him over Ferland, if I were LV.
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As would I. I don't mind Ferland but he seems to get a little too much love for one good series without showing much sign of that same player otherwise.
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06-10-2016, 02:32 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Happy
Only one year off their ELC's though.
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Yeah, but if this the definition of pro seasons, that sureLoss posted esrluer
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the term "professional season" shall:
(A) for a Player aged 18 or 19, mean any season in which such Player
plays in eleven (11) or more Professional Games (including NHL Regular
Season and Playoff Games, minor league regular season and playoff
games, and games played in any European professional league, while
under an SPC), and (B) for a Player aged 20 or older, mean any season in
which such Player plays in one or more Professional Games (including
NHL Regular Season and Playoff Games, minor league regular season and
playoff games, and games played in any European professional league,
while under an SPC).
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06-10-2016, 02:33 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
if there is only 1 expansion team, order doesn't matter.
Vegas just takes 1 player from each team.
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Yeah I guess it would be better said what the internal order of the expansion team has, meaning what available players (in this case defencemen) are ranked ahead of Kevin.
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06-10-2016, 02:34 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
So Gillies will only have 2 pro seasons so he will be exempt allowing the Flames to acquire a number 1 and still protect him
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At least something good came out of Gillies getting hurt last season.
Edit: Or I guess it wouldn't have better if he played the whole season or not since he was older than 19. Last season counted as his first pro season.
Last edited by Fire; 06-10-2016 at 02:43 PM.
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06-10-2016, 02:40 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Protect
F - Gaudreau
F - Monahan
F - Bennett
F - Backlund
F - Frolik
F - Shinkaruk
F - Pribyl/Ferland/Poirier <-- whoever has the most impressive 2016-17 season
D - Giordano
D - Brodie
D - Hamilton
G - UFA/Traded for Goalie
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06-10-2016, 02:41 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
stajan, colborne, wotherspoon exposed. boom
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Why the hell would we expose Colborne? At this point he has to be #6 on the list of forwards we do protect.
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06-10-2016, 02:42 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Yeah, but if this the definition of pro seasons, that sureLoss posted esrluer
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then Shinkaruk and Poirer would be exempt because this season is their 20 year old season is it not?
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