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Old 06-07-2016, 12:15 AM   #1
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I was pretty excited to get my first prescription for pain killers today but they aren't doing much. Are Tylenol 3's any good? Or did I get the kiddie pool drugs because prescription addicts have ruined the good stuff for the rest of us?

A bonus question worth my entire collection of pogs to anyone who knows what's wrong with the six inch square just below my hip. It makes the shoulder I dislocate once ever five years seem delightfully whimsical. I miss those days when deformity was your first clue in diagnosis. This is wildly painful and for no other reason than I'm too old to sleep in a bed that's softer than my prescribed sleep number. Or doesn't have a remote control. Or an emergency button. Loving 40's.
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Percocet is a step above T3's and is almost guaranteed to take the pain away. Maybe ask for those. They can be a little difficult to stop using though, depending how you are with dependence on that sort of thing and how long you need to use them for.

I used them for about three weeks for a major injury and stopped without going down in medication (usually you would be prescribed T3 for a bit after Percocet to "come down" from your body needing them) and had two kind of crappy nights where I could tell my body was like "Umm excuse me, that thing we've been using every night, yeah, you're not sleeping until we get that in!", then the third night was fine.

But the key is the pain was gone almost immediately after each dose was taken, and it was absolute agony without them, so that tells me they're a pretty effective drug.
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Old 06-07-2016, 12:46 AM   #3
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They prescribe painkillers based on your pain level. If they're not working for what you're feeling you could go back and ask for something stronger, but stronger painkillers tend to have more side effects and are generally more addictive which makes doctors prefer to avoid prescribing them unless it's necessary.

I went through most of the common heavy painkillers (Hydromorphone, Oxycodone, Tylenol 3, etc.) last time I had surgery. Never noticed any real side effects other than the usual stuff like feeling light headed and never had any kind of withdrawals. The only time I truly felt high from them was in the hospital when they'd give hydromorphone (essentially stronger heroin) through an IV or a shot. It hit so quickly that I felt a rush of euphoria which made me quickly understand how people get addicted to opiates.
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Old 06-07-2016, 01:21 AM   #4
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Percocet is a step above T3's and is almost guaranteed to take the pain away. Maybe ask for those. They can be a little difficult to stop using though, depending how you are with dependence on that sort of thing and how long you need to use them for.

I used them for about three weeks for a major injury and stopped without going down in medication (usually you would be prescribed T3 for a bit after Percocet to "come down" from your body needing them) and had two kind of crappy nights where I could tell my body was like "Umm excuse me, that thing we've been using every night, yeah, you're not sleeping until we get that in!", then the third night was fine.

But the key is the pain was gone almost immediately after each dose was taken, and it was absolute agony without them, so that tells me they're a pretty effective drug.
Percocet is a step above T-4's and T-4's have twice as much codeine as T-3's.

Anybody should stay far away from opioid drugs(Percocet,oxycodone, hydrocodone..etc. they are bad news.
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I was pretty excited to get my first prescription for pain killers today but they aren't doing much. Are Tylenol 3's any good? Or did I get the kiddie pool drugs because prescription addicts have ruined the good stuff for the rest of us?

A bonus question worth my entire collection of pogs to anyone who knows what's wrong with the six inch square just below my hip. It makes the shoulder I dislocate once ever five years seem delightfully whimsical. I miss those days when deformity was your first clue in diagnosis. This is wildly painful and for no other reason than I'm too old to sleep in a bed that's softer than my prescribed sleep number. Or doesn't have a remote control. Or an emergency button. Loving 40's.
T3's are usually sufficient, but for three caveats:

1) Pain is too strong
2) You are not opiate naive and therefore tolerance has weakened is effect
3) You are one of approximately 10-20% of people who do not convert codeine to morphine. Codeine itself does not have any analgesic effect, rather the body metabolizes some (approximately 20%) into morphine which is what provides the analgesia.




Also, hydromorphone is not stronger than heroine
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Opiods are the best. In the waiting period prior to my back surgery, it was the only thing that worked. I may as well have popped smarties as T3's.
Any 'danger' is overblown, imo, assuming we are talking Rx. Docs will only prescribe as last resort, only a small amount, and will virtually never refill again.
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Opiods are the best. In the waiting period prior to my back surgery, it was the only thing that worked. I may as well have popped smarties as T3's.
Any 'danger' is overblown, imo, assuming we are talking Rx. Docs will only prescribe as last resort, only a small amount, and will virtually never refill again.
Tell that to the 30,000 family's who lost a loved one last year in North America from deaths due to opioid drugs. And you are sooooo wrong on how the doctors prescribe these drugs.
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^ fair enough.
Was simply my experience in the system.
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Helpful info. Do certain pain killers work more effectively for certain conditions? Which is kind of a question about pain in general. Are there different kinds of pain? It really seems like T 3's don't do much for me. It sounds like that is my issue not the condition causing the pain. On the other hand I'm not doubting the addictive nature of some other drugs that no doubt work better. Kind of a catch 22 as it almost seems like pain itself can be addictive too.
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Oxy is da bomb. I'd get so addicted to that stuff if I wasn't careful. Mmmmm. T3 does nothing for me, either.
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Opiods are the best. In the waiting period prior to my back surgery, it was the only thing that worked. I may as well have popped smarties as T3's.
Any 'danger' is overblown, imo, assuming we are talking Rx. Docs will only prescribe as last resort, only a small amount, and will virtually never refill again.
There's a massive problem in this country with prescribed Opioids

Alberta:

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There's a massive problem in this country with prescribed Opioids
Well, I had no idea what a ####ty doc I had back then.
He wouldn't cough up anything beyond a one time RX of a dozen tabs.

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Smoke some marijuana Indica strain. Pain = gone.
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I was pretty excited to get my first prescription for pain killers today but they aren't doing much. Are Tylenol 3's any good? Or did I get the kiddie pool drugs because prescription addicts have ruined the good stuff for the rest of us?

A bonus question worth my entire collection of pogs to anyone who knows what's wrong with the six inch square just below my hip. It makes the shoulder I dislocate once ever five years seem delightfully whimsical. I miss those days when deformity was your first clue in diagnosis. This is wildly painful and for no other reason than I'm too old to sleep in a bed that's softer than my prescribed sleep number. Or doesn't have a remote control. Or an emergency button. Loving 40's.
Below your hip on the side kind of thing and when you're walking/standing?
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^ fair enough.
Was simply my experience in the system.
Based on your sample size of one there is the danger is overblown. When do you get published?
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Smoke some marijuana Indica strain. Pain = gone.
Along with any motivation or will to get off the couch.
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There's a massive problem in this country with prescribed Opioids

Alberta:
Not to say it's not an issue, but would a lot of that have to do with population growth?
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There's a massive problem in this country with prescribed Opioids
As someone less knowledgeable about the situation, care to explain?

Right now I'm seeing that about 0.5% of Albertans were prescribed opioids last year.
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As someone less knowledgeable about the situation, care to explain?

Right now I'm seeing that about 0.5% of Albertans were prescribed opioids last year.
It's increasing fast. Not sure where your number came from but self reported past year use of opioid analgesics in Canada in 2013 was 14.8%.


This article does a good job of explaining it with some good charts showing the increases

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...service=mobile
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