06-05-2016, 05:01 PM
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#4821
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Paradise Island, Bahamas
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I too have become a Keller fan over the past couple of months. I think he will be the BPA at #6 regardless of what the Canucks and Oilers do. I think the comparisons to Patrick Kane are apt.
I want him and am hoping that is what happens.
I also want Benson at #35. I think he is the most poorly judged player this year and is a top 20 talent.
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06-05-2016, 05:07 PM
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#4822
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In the Sin Bin
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On a team led by Gaudreau there's no way Keller is the best player available at six. We're already too easy to push around, adding another pint sized forward that high in the draft is not gonna happen IMO. Keller would be a great pick outside the top 10, but we're picking 6th. No reputable scouting service has Keller top 8
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06-05-2016, 05:10 PM
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#4823
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Originally Posted by Caged Great
Even if Keller is 90% of the player that Gaudreau is, he would be amazing on the second line.
Supremely smart players like Johnny are always good additions.
The Flames are the most aware of what they have in Gaudreau of any team. Keller is slightly bigger than Gaudreau is at the same point as well.
Keller is the player I am hoping for, although I am expecting something less shocking with a Nylander pick.
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That's just the thing, Gaudreau has always been lauded for his creativity, smarts, vision, and game breaking ability, but there was always the question of his defensive game. Keller has the same attributes AND question marks being brought up about his game. Gaudreau had the intelligence and work ethic to develop them throughout college. I can't see why Keller couldn't as well.
Even still, other than FutureConsiderations (who has him at #7), every other scouting publication has a clear gap between Nylander and Keller.
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06-05-2016, 05:11 PM
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#4824
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
On a team led by Gaudreau there's no way Keller is the best player available at six. We're already too easy to push around, adding another pint sized forward that high in the draft is not gonna happen IMO. Keller would be a great pick outside the top 10, but we're picking 6th. No reputable scouting service has Keller top 8
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Future Considerations has Keller at #7.
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06-05-2016, 05:50 PM
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#4825
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Keller is committed to Boston University next year, so you won't see him for four years at best. Can we wait that long with 6OA pick? Not in my opinion.
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06-05-2016, 05:52 PM
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#4826
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Franchise Player
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What? "at best"?
Just because he's going to BU next year doesn't mean he's going for all 4 years. I'd bet he goes for one year and turns pro for the 2017/2018 season.
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06-05-2016, 05:54 PM
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#4827
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
What? "at best"?
Just because he's going to BU next year doesn't mean he's going for all 4 years. I'd bet he goes for one year and turns pro for the 2017/2018 season.
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I'm going to hold you to that. Lol
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06-05-2016, 05:55 PM
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#4828
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Franchise Player
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you can but I assure you it's a waste of your time.
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06-05-2016, 05:57 PM
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#4829
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
you can but I assure you it's a waste of your time.
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How long have you had your crystal ball?
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06-05-2016, 05:58 PM
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#4830
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Franchise Player
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I literally can't think of one highly regarded (pre-draft) prospect that spent all 4 years in college. Even Gaudreau (and he wasn't as highly regarded as Keller) was done after 3.
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06-05-2016, 06:03 PM
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#4831
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Anyone who is good is usually in and out in a year or two. Gaudreau only stayed for 3 because he was so small and it was better for him to be there as the team wasn't sure if he would be able to adjust.
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06-05-2016, 06:06 PM
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#4832
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First Line Centre
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I don't see Treliving picking Keller at 6. Not when there are bigger players with similar skill ceilings who are closer to being NHL ready.
I also believe he's under strict instruction from Burkie to make the top 6 bigger by any means necessary. Our skill guys aren't that big & our big guys aren't that skilled. There's one easy way to remedy that & it's through the draft.
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06-05-2016, 06:08 PM
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#4833
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Franchise Player
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I don't think Treliving is under strict instruction from Burke to do anything.
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06-05-2016, 06:08 PM
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#4834
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlameZilla
I also believe he's under strict instruction from Burkie to make the top 6 bigger by any means necessary. Our skill guys aren't that big & our big guys aren't that skilled. There's one easy way to remedy that & it's through the draft.
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I doubt very much it's "instruction" from Burke, which to me implies that Treliving doesn't want to follow the path but must go along with the marching orders from on high.
I expect instead that Treliving also thinks the team needs to get bigger.
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06-05-2016, 06:11 PM
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#4835
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
On a team led by Gaudreau there's no way Keller is the best player available at six. We're already too easy to push around, adding another pint sized forward that high in the draft is not gonna happen IMO. Keller would be a great pick outside the top 10, but we're picking 6th. No reputable scouting service has Keller top 8
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Under the assumption that 1-5 go 1-5, we are basically debating between a 5-10, a 5-11, a 6-0 winger. None of Nylander, Keller, or Jost are going to be imposing physically and are all going to be pushed around by defenders.
Unless the Flames decide to go with a D-man or Logan Brown, both of which do not make a ton of sense with what is in the organization, then it's up to a pick of which of the smallish wingers you like the best.
All three of them in terms of raw skill are pretty close. I think Keller has the highest overall skill level of the three, which is why I like him over the other two, but I would not be complaining one bit if they went with either of the other options.
If Logan Brown was more physical, he would be right up there as well, but he's about as domineering as Colborne.
It's a weird draft with so many players that are basically identical skill wise.
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06-05-2016, 06:13 PM
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#4836
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Scoring Winger
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Sergachev at 6 for me. That has high potential to give the flames the best defence in the league in a few years. Deal from a position of strength and trade one of our D prospects or an aging Gio (sad but think Iginla and missed capital) for a stud scoring winger.
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06-05-2016, 06:32 PM
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#4837
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
Under the assumption that 1-5 go 1-5, we are basically debating between a 5-10, a 5-11, a 6-0 winger. None of Nylander, Keller, or Jost are going to be imposing physically and are all going to be pushed around by defenders.
Unless the Flames decide to go with a D-man or Logan Brown, both of which do not make a ton of sense with what is in the organization, then it's up to a pick of which of the smallish wingers you like the best.
All three of them in terms of raw skill are pretty close. I think Keller has the highest overall skill level of the three, which is why I like him over the other two, but I would not be complaining one bit if they went with either of the other options.
If Logan Brown was more physical, he would be right up there as well, but he's about as domineering as Colborne.
It's a weird draft with so many players that are basically identical skill wise.
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Logan Brown does make a ton of sense for Calgary. So do the D-men if they reach their ceiling.
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06-05-2016, 06:36 PM
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#4838
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Powerplay Quarterback
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i have a feeling we will take juolevi.
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06-05-2016, 06:41 PM
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#4839
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
Anyone who is good is usually in and out in a year or two. Gaudreau only stayed for 3 because he was so small and it was better for him to be there as the team wasn't sure if he would be able to adjust.
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Gaudreau only stayed for 3 so he could play a year with his little brother. They wanted to sign him after 2.
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06-05-2016, 06:49 PM
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#4840
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
On a team led by Gaudreau there's no way Keller is the best player available at six. We're already too easy to push around, adding another pint sized forward that high in the draft is not gonna happen IMO. Keller would be a great pick outside the top 10, but we're picking 6th. No reputable scouting service has Keller top 8
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I keep hearing this but it's total exaggeration to say this happened on a regular basis and besides the Jets are a massive team and how's that working for them? The Flames simply couldn't play defense and stop the puck as that kept them out of the playoffs not lack of size. This team could use a player or two with a mean streak but we are talking about the 6th overall pick here which is where you are supposed to pick the most talented players not enforcers or bruising wingers.
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