Calgary Flames All-Time Defenseman Rankings #1

[schteve_d]

Offensive defenseman or defensive defenseman or best all-around? I'm assuming best all-around. Guys like Reggie don't get the credit they deserve as the shut-down guys never do. Same could be said for guys like Hamrlik. Maybe even Smid.

Best all-around, I think MacInnes is hard to argue with!

There should almost be two different metrics for defensemen!

[PepsiFree]

Well of course they're different players. I'm very interested to see what the next 2-3 years look like for Brodie.

I'd argue he's the best player on the Flames right now. History could look good on him.

[FlamesAddiction]

This might help:

http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/teams...nhl-stats.html

[Matty81]

Chopper is a pretty easy call at #1 and Suter is an easy #2.

[locsofblu]

This is not even close. Last defenseman to put up over 100 points. Conn Smyth to boot aswell. Doubt any one on our roster comes close to that. Suter at #2.

[Dion]

[killer_carlson]

Some data to help with the debate:

Conn Smythe
MacInnis

Calder
Suter

NHL Plus Minus
McCrimmon

NHL First All Star Team Flames Awards
MacInnis x 2
Phaneuf

NHL Second All Star Team
Suter
McCrimmon
MacInnis x 3

Flames defencemen who appeared in all star games for the Flames

MacInnis x 6
Suter x 4
Reinhart
McCrimmon
Dion x 2
Giordano
Housley
Rautekellio


According to Wikipedia, no Flame blueliner ever won the Molson Cup for the season.

Ralph Scurfield Award for: the player who "best exemplifies the qualities of perseverance, determination and leadership on the ice, combined with dedication to community service."

Macoun
MacInnis
Gautier
Regehr
Warrener x 2
Sarich
Giordano
Phaneuf

Bud McCaig Award: who "best exemplify Mr. McCaig’s enduring virtues of respect, courtesy and compassion for all individuals he encountered both in his professional and everyday life

Regehr
Giordano
Russell
Brodie

Flames Captains: defencemen

Boughner
Simpson
Smith
Giordano
Marsh
McCrimmon
Phil Russell

[jlh2640]

Macinnis 1 for sure, Regher 2 no question.

[jlh2640]

I would argue that Dion and Bouw should both be on the list.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

Macinnis 1 for sure, Regher 2 no question.

MacInnis #1 is no question.

Regehr at #2 is a big question.

There was this Dman named Gary Suter.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

Macinnis 1 for sure, Regher 2 no question.

#2 is no question, but you got the name wrong.

[jlh2640]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

MacInnis #1 is no question.

Regehr at #2 is a big question.

There was this Dman named Gary Suter.

Nope, as good as Suter was at what he did. Regehr in his prime was better and more impactful at what he did (defensive dman). Stats will argue in Suters favour, but no way were the Flames anything with out Robyn in 2003-2008 and I am aware of how good Miikka and Jarome were. But it was also different eras between players which is always hard to compare. Plus Im still pissed at Suter for cross checking Kariya in the face in 98 and taking him out of the olympics.

[keratosis]

Chopper and Reinhardt if he didn't have the back problems.

[IgiTang]

How is this even a discussion?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

Nope, as good as Suter was at what he did. Regehr in his prime was better and more impactful at what he did (defensive dman). Stats will argue in Suters favour, but no way were the Flames anything with out Robyn in 2003-2008 and I am aware of how good Miikka and Jarome were. But it was also different eras between players which is always hard to compare. Plus Im still pissed at Suter for cross checking Kariya in the face in 98 and taking him out of the olympics.

I respectfully disagree. Suter was the entire package, he was amazing both offensively and defensively. Not even close imo.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

Nope, as good as Suter was at what he did. Regehr in his prime was better and more impactful at what he did (defensive dman). Stats will argue in Suters favour, but no way were the Flames anything with out Robyn in 2003-2008 and I am aware of how good Miikka and Jarome were. But it was also different eras between players which is always hard to compare. Plus Im still pissed at Suter for cross checking Kariya in the face in 98 and taking him out of the olympics.

i'm not even sure Regehr gets #1 status as the best stay-at-home defenceman in team history. I think that goes to McCrimmon.

They are both top 10 though.

[Buck Murdock]

A better supersize might be constructing your best all-time Flames Top 6 defense.

AMac - GSuter
MGio - TJBrodie
RReghr - PHousley
7th - Neon Dion

[btimbit]

Dallas Eakins.





But voted Al, obviously

[activeStick]

Add Stralman to the list...

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by locsofblu

This is not even close. Last defenseman to put up over 100 points. Conn Smyth to boot aswell. Doubt any one on our roster comes close to that. Suter at #2.

I'm sure Brian Leetch did it after Chopper did.